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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening fade to black bespoke radio

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for the messes

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yeah today's tuesday october 20th 2020

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294 days into the new year only

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man

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is

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fade to black for kjcr the game changer

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network and kg are a the planet

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking how you doing

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oh yeah

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all right i got some splaining to do

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the air conditioner went out

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in the bunker so right now

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it is probably i'm gonna guess

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90 95 degrees in here no oxygen

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equipment malfunction things are heating

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up right things are you know

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and uh just bizarro stuff

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got a fan right here little usb fan

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yanked out of a computer not no joke so

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that's running over here

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it's blowing on me i've got a can of uh

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compressed air over here which is cool

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because if you tip it upside down

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you can cover your face with frost

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so i've got that over there and i'll

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make it through the show tonight you

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know whatever

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and uh i've been assured that the air

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conditioning will be

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uh fixed tomorrow uh but uh that doesn't

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that doesn't change things for tonight

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doesn't but anyway

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so that's that's what was going on it

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was just like really weird

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steph just decided to not function

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oh man and i was uh

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uh you know i i came to the studio

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wearing shorts and uh flip-flops and uh

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it's just hot in here man

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it's hot you know there's uh no windows

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air circulation it's just the ac

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when when that ain't running this is a

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it's just it's sealed it's good to go

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you know if i need to go into lockdown

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there's just no air man there's no air

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i'll make it though i'll make it it's

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going to be a great show tonight

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i'm so looking forward to this now let

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me give you the rundown

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excuse me of the evening because tonight

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we have uh three very special guests

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first up tonight continuing our haunted

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rocktober

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knight and then

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are going to be discussing they are the

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behind and hosting uh

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at the queen mary next weekend our

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haunted weekend on the queen

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so uh we're gonna talk about all of that

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what's going on on the boat and

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and aidan and becca have a really cool

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side gig we're gonna talk about that

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we're gonna have a full evening tonight

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it is going to be great and then

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tomorrow night

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richard bleepin dolan that's right

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well always with richard i should say no

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agenda

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we just open up the show we start

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talking and and we end the show a couple

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of hours later and

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and we see where things take and that's

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what we're going to do tomorrow night

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into some other areas tomorrow night too

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as well so i can't wait for that richard

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dolan is here

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uh throughout social media i will see

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other people other threads other posts

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other communities other groups

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using bleepin now and

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how cool is that he is no longer

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richard nolan he is richard bleepin

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dolan and uh one day

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one day we'll run with um uh

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without uh without consideration of

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on the show because here you know we

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keep the show clean it's a family show

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but one day uh we'll do the sailor

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show right and we'll just we'll swear

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like sailors

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and i'll tell you the story i'll tell

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you the story

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where it all started with bleeping

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there you go all right so that's tonight

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and tomorrow night thursday night of

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course is

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fader night with open lines all night

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long we lost five seven minutes at the

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top of the show tonight so i've got to

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get

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things moving forward as quick as i can

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i want you to get a crystal skull

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there's only one place to get it the

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best is carolyn ford

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go to einstein the crystalskull.com when

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you go you can click on the banners over

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go pick out a skull consult with carolyn

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figure out what you want

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and and what you like and so forth and

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and then use the promo code jimmy you

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now we will be

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at uh the queen mary next weekend

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october 29th through the

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uh november 1st i'll be there friday

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night down below in the descriptions

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uh you can see the queen mary you can

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click on that and head over and also use

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uh jimmy when you do that you'll get an

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uh get signed up get ready it's gonna be

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awesome and just go over and check out

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the dark zone website and see how they

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have things set up

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it is really really cool all right

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follow me on twitter at jchurchradio

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at j church radio the sandbox is hashtag

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and any questions uh tonight for my

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use hashtag f2bq let's get to the

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today and i saw the video so i wanted to

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iceland's prime minister was interrupted

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uh kathryn jacobs daughter was

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an earthquake here right now and she

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to show cracking happy birthday to today

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i don't believe this but i'm gonna stick

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i'm going 65 49 years old

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john krasinski today is 41.

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viggo mortensen today 63

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and an old friend of mine cinderella

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drummer and stickman fred curry all

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around nice guy

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huge talent great producer great drummer

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today fred curry

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is just 53 years old our dead guy's

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birthday today is hard to believe

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tom petty 1950 to 2017

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the lead vocalist and guitarist of tom

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don't do me like that refugee the

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don't come around here no more learning

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abducted into the rock and roll hall of

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he died of an accidental drug overdose

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that it was three years ago i mean

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after the end of the heartbreaker's 40th

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cassie gaines of leonard skinner die in

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a mississippi plane crash

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as well as the band's assistant road

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manager and the plane's pilot and

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co-pilot

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in 1977.

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fader fact okay here you go

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what can i say uh a sneeze is coming on

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here it comes sneeze are you guys

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watching

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eyes watering ah did it pass

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okay fader fact

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during world war ii now this is look

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you're not gonna believe this

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so just go with it okay and

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and you can look up operation

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sneeze is coming back okay during world

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i'm not making this up the plan never

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japan but they did test it in

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washington dc freaking out anyone

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who saw them about

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operation fantasia oh

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man people got paid to sit around and

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think that one up

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foxes and glow in the dark

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paint we'll unleash them

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miley cyrus miley miley miley miley

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cyrus is in the news

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because she just opened up in an

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a close encounter yeah

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a close encounter she had with e.t

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and their ship

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that's right now

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i like eyewitness testimony i do

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i i really do now

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i'm gonna give you miley's

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version of events and then let me know

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what you think

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she says now i have all the quotes here

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so i'm not going to take anything out of

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context

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i'm not going to uh speak for her i'm

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not going to rewrite i'm not going to

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no these are her

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words it's good stuff too

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she says quote i was driving through

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san bernardino with my friend

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and i got chased down by some sort of

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ufo

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she goes on to say i'm pretty sure

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about what i saw but i also

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bought weed wax from a guy in a van

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in front of a taco shop so it could have

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oh man and then she continues

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but the best way to describe it

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is a flying snow plow

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that's right miley says quote

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it had this big plow in the front of it

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and it was glowing yellow

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weed wax

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you can't even say that without laughing

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weed wax i've never i've never done

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any time anybody has ever you know and

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you know they whip out their

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their pot kit it's so funny because

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it'll be some

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some spliffs some buds maybe three or

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four different kinds here's this here's

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froot loops here's

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here's girl scout cookies you know what

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whatever these

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birthday cake you know these different

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oh i said birthday cakes yeah i know

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what i'm talking about

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and i got some wax and this is like

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that's where i just stop and go man

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you're you're way too into this

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anyway miley continues with this

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quote i did see it flying

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and my friend saw it too

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she says there were a couple of other

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cars on the road

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and they also stopped to look so i think

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what i saw was real end quote

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weed wax anyway miley

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continues with and i quote again

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i did see a being sitting in the front

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of the flying object

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it looked at me and we made eye contact

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and i think that's what really shook me

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looking

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into the eyes of something that i

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couldn't quite

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wrap my head around but

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you're you're so right to say that it's

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a form of narcissism

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to think that we're the only things that

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could be

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in this vast universe end quote

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weed wax now here's the deal

388
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the story without the weed wax

389
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it's pretty compelling isn't it

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witnesses cars

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friend right and then

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the weed wax bought from a dude in a van

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at a taco shop

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so descriptive right but

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does that take away

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from her encounter and i'm being very

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straight here

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i'm not so sure that it does and there

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are a lot

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of people out there that are very quick

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to judge and go oh come on you're

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you're just you're smoking weed wax

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you didn't see it and you saw a snow

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plow in san bernardino by the way

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but it's her honesty

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to say hey i just bought some weed wax

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i saw this ufo i'm looking into the eyes

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of this creature

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right so she was close enough to see out

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looked into the

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i i think i think i'm buying the story

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the weed wax part of it is funny but it

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is

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it's honesty and she's putting it

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straight out there this is what happened

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on the evening she didn't skip over that

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part

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right i probably would have but she

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didn't

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up i was at a taco shop there's a van

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i needed some weed wax tacos

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you know and then we hit the road you

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and i'm buying her story i'm buying her

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story

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and and miley i know you're not

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listening but maybe one of your friends

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are

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and if they could reach out to you i

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would love to hear the rest of the story

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there's so much more to it

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this is a gloss over

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the details

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and her last comment the last the last

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paragraph

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of her comment is it's just awesome

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you know she says um she says

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but you're so right to say that it's a

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form of narcissism to think that we're

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the only ones that could be in this vast

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universe very spot-on very spot-on

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uh so there you go i just have one more

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thing to say

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weed wax this is fade to black i

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one pipe for miley come on tara

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no oh yeah one pipe oh that's a good

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pipe

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with you tara one pie

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one bite or miley it's gonna be a great

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show tonight i'm in a great mood

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i'm sitting in a sauna it's 95 degrees

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in here i'm sweating

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i'm i mean i'm i'm just wet

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00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:43,919
tea

565
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:52,880
nine out of ten geneticists agree

566
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:56,720
fade to black is not

567
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,320
your father's radio show on the game

568
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:02,000
changer radio network

569
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,559
and kgra the planet

570
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:08,640
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

571
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,200
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

572
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:16,080
what's up i'm chris what up this is

573
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:37,029
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

574
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:38,559
your host jimmy church tonight

575
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,559
continuing our haunted rocktober

576
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,559
tonight aidan sinclair becca knight

577
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:46,960
susan slaughter will be joining us

578
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,279
in the next hour we're discussing

579
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,600
our haunted weekend on the queen mary's

580
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:54,799
going down next week

581
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,320
october 29th through november first

582
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,960
aidan is an active magician member of

583
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:02,720
the prestigious academy of

584
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,960
magical arts at the magic castle right

585
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,880
here in hollywood california

586
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,480
has been a feature performer on the hit

587
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,000
series america's got talent

588
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,799
and pen and tellers fool us as well as

589
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:14,240
appearing on national television

590
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:15,039
programs in

591
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:18,320
england ireland and south africa and

592
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,279
this is the thing

593
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,679
first off aiden and becca i want to

594
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:23,520
welcome both of you to the show for the

595
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:24,320
first time

596
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,440
good evening how are you

597
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,720
oh that's hold on let's actually do this

598
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:32,720
over i hit the wrong mute button

599
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,840
okay good evening how are you

600
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,399
hi hey how are you thanks for having us

601
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,399
on yeah and this is what's great

602
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,960
uh first time guest which we love around

603
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,640
here but that means you get the first

604
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,320
time guest disclaimer

605
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,080
so let's get that out of the way first

606
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:49,840
it which is this

607
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:52,799
it's just the three of us sitting on my

608
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,279
couch

609
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:55,039
having a conversation as friends and

610
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,880
where that conversation starts it starts

611
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:58,240
where it ends and ends

612
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,679
but we're going to hand his friends

613
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,399
there you go yeah disclaimer over

614
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,360
i i i'm actually going to start oh oh

615
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:07,520
you know what i wanted to uh

616
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,640
i wanted to share uh this with you aiden

617
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,679
you're going gonna laugh in the uh

618
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,760
i can say this now i think statute of

619
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:16,720
limitations

620
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,760
is over i i used to live uh

621
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,159
down the street from the magic castle

622
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,320
well any rocker in hollywood

623
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:27,200
at that time lived down the street from

624
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,320
the magic castle

625
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,600
but back then in the day they don't have

626
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,279
it now but back then this

627
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:35,520
is 30 years ago 25 years ago 30 years

628
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:36,960
ago

629
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:40,000
on the concrete wall down on

630
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,279
uh franklin or fountain uh leading

631
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:46,159
up to the there's that white wall there

632
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:46,640
and they

633
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:50,159
mounted to the wall a sign

634
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,440
that said the magic castle with an arrow

635
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:55,840
pointing up the driveway

636
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:59,520
i stole three of them oh my god that's

637
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:00,159
awesome

638
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,200
i did and i had them i had them in my

639
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:04,799
living room

640
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,919
and and and and then i went back they

641
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:09,679
kept replacing the signs

642
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,480
right and so i had like an old one and

643
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,080
then like two brand new ones

644
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,440
right well anyway anyway after that

645
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,840
after the third one that stuff was in a

646
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,880
frame

647
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:23,440
up off of the you see how it is now

648
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,919
right

649
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:26,240
yeah concrete blocked it down now yeah

650
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:27,760
yeah it's all that's because of

651
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,360
me there you go okay

652
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,799
it's important to have a legacy jimmy

653
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:34,480
you gotta have a lady you know what

654
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:38,080
i i feel cleansed i feel cleansed i feel

655
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:38,880
better

656
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:42,320
um but i actually want to start here

657
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,240
the both of you um happen to work

658
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:49,200
at two of the most haunted craziest

659
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:50,240
scariest

660
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,559
places in all of the world why

661
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,440
well they're just why they get a little

662
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:59,440
bit of a bad shake i think you know like

663
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,919
they are

664
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,440
they're definitely the most active

665
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,120
places in the world but

666
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:05,440
uh scary is definitely not a word to

667
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,320
describe them

668
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:09,440
yeah i mean we've been i've been

669
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,600
at this for almost a decade now right um

670
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,200
i want the audience to know that we're

671
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,000
talking about the stanley hotel

672
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:20,480
yeah in colorado and of course the queen

673
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,360
mary

674
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,559
yeah and uh it was there uh

675
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:27,279
something that drew you to these two

676
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:27,840
places

677
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:31,120
were you showing off right no i mean

678
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,080
it's just uh

679
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,360
i started at the stanley and um i think

680
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,120
we all have those places that we visit

681
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,960
in life that just when you walk into

682
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,000
them you feel like

683
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:42,240
you belong there you know there's just

684
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:45,120
something about them that draws you

685
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:46,880
and the stanley was the first the queen

686
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:49,360
mary uh was the second for me

687
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:51,360
uh and the winchester mystery house we

688
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:52,559
get up to quite a bit too

689
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,240
up in san jose but um as part of it is

690
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,559
the history and the decorum of the place

691
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:00,880
and uh you know it's one of those places

692
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,480
you can't walk into and not

693
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,320
you know kind of stand in awe of all the

694
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,679
people who were there before you that

695
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,120
were extraordinary

696
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:09,679
well and uh it speaks to you in that way

697
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:10,159
yeah

698
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,240
it has to it has to and um i want to

699
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:17,279
actually another quick comment i caught

700
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:18,080
you

701
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,440
uh quite by chance uh i'm both america's

702
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,519
got talent and pen and teller

703
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:26,720
and and and i uh watched your card

704
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,519
action

705
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,679
and i stepped back and this is what i

706
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,360
thought this is my guy

707
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,679
right and there was but but there was

708
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,279
there was reasons for it

709
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,840
it's your personality um obviously

710
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,640
you're nimble

711
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:41,600
uh with with the cards you know there's

712
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:42,640
that part of it

713
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,320
but your personality combined with magic

714
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,679
uh is is really really cool and it's an

715
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:51,279
honor to finally have you on the show

716
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:51,679
but

717
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:55,120
wanted to get that out of the way that i

718
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:55,679
did

719
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,760
what are the odds right

720
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,760
and well thank you for watching them for

721
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,600
one you know that was a

722
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,200
they were both really super humbling

723
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:07,360
experiences to do so

724
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,679
um you know they were a lot of fun but

725
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,279
also immensely intimidating

726
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:14,640
you know it's the um doing tv work is

727
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:15,200
always

728
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:17,039
you know kind of tricky but under those

729
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,240
conditions is

730
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:20,240
you know they're competitive and you

731
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:21,519
know you got a lot of people looking at

732
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:22,320
you so

733
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,240
it's a little bit harder to to maintain

734
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,320
your cool yeah somebody just posted a

735
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:28,399
picture of the new magic castle sign

736
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,789
that's funny we just need to get a

737
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,399
little plaque that says jimmy church was

738
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,320
here now man

739
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:41,279
they'll send me a bill yeah yeah yeah

740
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,159
they will

741
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,519
i i had uh i had friends going man you

742
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,120
know it's not cool

743
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,760
i was like man it's you could just take

744
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:51,279
you know anyway okay enough of that

745
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,159
enough of that it's

746
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:55,679
it's it was wrong it was 30 years ago it

747
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:56,320
wasn't but

748
00:34:02,950 --> 00:33:59,679
now it is immensely cool so

749
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,960
oh man the guilt the guilt i the the the

750
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:04,880
cross that i bear

751
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:09,760
yeah so um now but back to the cards

752
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,879
what came first the paranormal and the

753
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,320
supernatural

754
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:17,520
or did cards start to lead you in this

755
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:18,879
direction

756
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:21,440
initially cards in sleight of hand and

757
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,079
uh

758
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,960
i kind of fell into this in a way was

759
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,839
that uh

760
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,159
while i was you know kind of doing magic

761
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,159
traditional magic behind a bar

762
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:32,480
uh doing sleight of hand um i got

763
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:34,000
approached by a domestic violence

764
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:34,560
shelter

765
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,760
to to do a show for them and uh

766
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,919
initially just because of the cause i

767
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,679
agreed to it very quickly

768
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:44,000
and uh then i started thinking about it

769
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:45,280
and i realized that

770
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,280
the primary purpose of magic for most

771
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,679
people is to take you away from reality

772
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:51,119
and here's this organization that's

773
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,879
trying to raise awareness and raise

774
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:54,800
money for domestic violence

775
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:56,079
and it's something that people don't

776
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,680
want to talk about and it's something

777
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:59,280
they're you know you need to kind of put

778
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,640
a spotlight on

779
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,480
so instead of doing that traditional

780
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:04,560
style of magic i kind of stepped back

781
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,280
and

782
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:07,760
wrote a show that was a little bit more

783
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,480
um

784
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,560
from the heart i guess and more focused

785
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:11,520
on

786
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:14,960
way

787
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,760
and then oh i'm sorry go ahead and and

788
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,800
that made the impact

789
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,760
of doing this one show that at the end

790
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,200
of it people were crying

791
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,440
you know and it was a full-length show

792
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,960
that only had one magic

793
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:29,119
you know yeah trick in it and it wasn't

794
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,480
even performed by him

795
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,560
and it just created this huge impact

796
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:34,400
that got him to see that

797
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,480
magic can be powerful in a different way

798
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:38,079
and to kind of

799
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,760
his magic i always explain it as

800
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:41,680
transport you back to a time when magic

801
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,400
was real

802
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,800
you know now magic is so easily

803
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,599
googleable

804
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,800
and you can find the

805
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,720
the reason and the how behind a trick on

806
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:52,800
the internet at your thumbs

807
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:56,000
so uh it when you kind of bring ghosts

808
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,640
into it

809
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,560
it takes you back to that time of the

810
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,800
1930s and 40s when spiritualism and

811
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:01,680
ghosts and

812
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:04,720
magic was real to an audience um so it's

813
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,440
no longer

814
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:08,480
just a card trick but

815
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:12,160
with that too you know we we find that

816
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,480
things outside of his control happen

817
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,880
well let's see and that's exactly yeah

818
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,560
yeah that's exactly what i want to talk

819
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:21,760
about because

820
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:25,680
uh this evolved into uh

821
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,800
theater right it did it did it

822
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,880
it evolved into theater but then you

823
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:32,880
know it was theater that was created

824
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,680
um specifically to perform you know in

825
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:37,920
historically haunted places and

826
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,160
during that time in my life i you know i

827
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,599
have very good friends that are

828
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,440
you know investigators of the paranormal

829
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,040
and um

830
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,880
so you know i spent a lot of time with

831
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,560
these people and they'd all had these

832
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,200
you know they became friends uh and as a

833
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:53,119
magician i'm kind of a natural skeptic

834
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,520
so

835
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:55,280
i'm performing in haunted places and

836
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,560
then they would have these paranormal

837
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,079
conventions where

838
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,760
you know these investigators would come

839
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,200
in and i started tagging along on

840
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,960
investigations with you know like dave

841
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,720
schrader and grant wilson and

842
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,800
patrick doyle and you know these people

843
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,560
from tv

844
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,000
and i started seeing things that i

845
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,800
couldn't explain you know and

846
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,400
when you see things you can't explain it

847
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,240
makes you either run away from them or

848
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:17,920
get more curious about them and i kind

849
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,800
of

850
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,480
got more curious about it and started

851
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:23,359
investigating myself and

852
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,880
you know spending a lot of time doing

853
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:27,040
research in the occult and witchcraft

854
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,760
and

855
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:29,920
all of the the kind of spooky things

856
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,200
that you know

857
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:32,880
are kind of in the shadows that are

858
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:35,839
really curious topics

859
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,079
and then the more i spent in haunted

860
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,839
places more time i spent there the more

861
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:41,440
i started to have experiences of things

862
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:42,320
that i

863
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:46,160
couldn't explain so what do you do with

864
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:47,280
that

865
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:53,839
start to you are

866
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,480
you are now the person that most people

867
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,000
would call crazy

868
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,119
right yeah so yeah yeah especially

869
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:02,640
magicians because magicians are such

870
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,440
hard-line skeptics you know they

871
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,599
they really want to grasp on to the idea

872
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:08,720
of uh

873
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,520
you know james randy and the idea that

874
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,280
houdini was the great debunker

875
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,440
you know of things so there's always

876
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:17,200
this this really old history of

877
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,000
magicians

878
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:21,200
you know debunking the paranormal um

879
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:22,800
and i've always been adverse to that i

880
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,839
always i always felt that that was uh

881
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,680
you know someone reading the tea leaves

882
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:29,599
and and making their own interpretation

883
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:29,839
of

884
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,040
houdini's story right you know i don't

885
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,960
think houdini was so much a debunker as

886
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,240
somebody who

887
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,320
genuinely was seeking contact with his

888
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,520
mother and

889
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,839
when he experienced fraud he exposed it

890
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,920
but he also attended many seances

891
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:46,160
and did nothing there was no exposure

892
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:47,119
there was

893
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,160
you know and he would write in his

894
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,599
journals later in life that he had seen

895
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:51,359
things he couldn't explain yet was not

896
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,720
willing to

897
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:54,320
you know sign off as them being

898
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,200
paranormal so

899
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,640
and so now uh the both of you

900
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:03,359
uh and i want everybody to to know that

901
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:03,760
that

902
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:07,040
uh becca is the

903
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:10,480
other half of uh the the theater and

904
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:14,000
the show that you guys put on um is it

905
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:17,200
the location right

906
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,960
where these things happen or is it

907
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,359
can you do it anywhere is it is it what

908
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:24,880
you are doing

909
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,000
to allow things to happen we're we're

910
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,640
kind of curious about that actually um

911
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,640
we mostly just have access to the places

912
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,320
we have access to so that's where we

913
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,320
have the majority of our experiences

914
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,320
and investigating and you don't really

915
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:39,520
want to sit in your living room and

916
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,520
investigate i mean aiden probably would

917
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:45,520
i probably wouldn't be able to no no i'm

918
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:46,800
not i'm not down for

919
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,839
i'm not down for that i don't it's not

920
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,440
enough all the things that uh

921
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:53,359
come in the mail and he's like i have

922
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,480
this human thing

923
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,880
and this from a graveyard and this grave

924
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,400
dirt and this guy

925
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,839
and i'm like thank you for bringing that

926
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:02,079
into my home yeah that can go upstairs

927
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:02,880
in your office

928
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,880
right right i'm not uncomfortable with

929
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,160
it but i'm just like thank you for

930
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,240
inviting all of this into my home now

931
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,079
i'm glad we have a dog that can let us

932
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:14,480
know if she sees things

933
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,960
that's right it's just yeah it's just

934
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,480
it's been interesting is over the last

935
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,400
10 years like the more we've performed

936
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,560
and the show has grown

937
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,160
it happens about once a month we'll get

938
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:26,000
a package in the mail and a nice letter

939
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,520
or you know i'll get an email

940
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,440
from somebody going hey i've got this

941
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:31,440
thing can you get it out of my house can

942
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:31,760
i

943
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:49,760
person who last sent me a doll

944
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,440
you know did they just send some ghost

945
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:53,040
favorite toy out of their house and the

946
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:54,240
ghost is now pissed

947
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:55,599
you know walking around the house trying

948
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:57,520
to find it yeah yeah

949
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,440
i got a i got a a voodoo doll

950
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:04,560
um are you guys watching us on on

951
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,599
can you see the screen no no

952
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,920
we're just on audio well in the in the

953
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:11,520
background in the corner here

954
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,040
um somebody sent me a voodoo doll of me

955
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:17,040
right it's a it's a jimmy voodoo doll

956
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,319
and it's actually very

957
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,079
it's it's actually very cool it's it's

958
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:22,480
fun to look at it's kind of fuzzy

959
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:25,760
it's it's it's very detailed but for

960
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,280
for the first two weeks that i got this

961
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,480
i would come into the bunker and

962
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:35,040
it would be in a different place

963
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:35,520
followed

964
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:38,880
you know fallen over and just

965
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,839
nothing else is moving in here yeah now

966
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:43,280
i brought it up

967
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,800
and it hasn't moved since uh

968
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:48,720
yeah for about two weeks i'm looking at

969
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,200
him right now i'm turning right like you

970
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:53,280
watch tonight yeah he's gonna move

971
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:54,400
tonight now

972
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,000
where do you guys do your show um on the

973
00:42:03,190 --> 00:41:59,680
queen mary what part of the ship

974
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:03,200
what room um it we actually had to build

975
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:03,839
the room

976
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:06,400
it was uh for a long time it was

977
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,280
abandoned

978
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,920
and uh then they turned it into a dark

979
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,839
harbor maze for a period

980
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,599
so when they first showed me the space

981
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,599
it was a wreck um

982
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:17,359
but originally on the queen mary it was

983
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:19,280
the mail room it's all the way forward

984
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,680
on b

985
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,240
deck up where the cronia and carpathia

986
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:23,839
rooms which would have been the tourist

987
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,920
class or third class smoking lounges

988
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,000
but the room that the theater is in has

989
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:32,480
got the access point for the uh

990
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,000
the main mast of the ship and uh during

991
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,880
our sailing days it was where mail and

992
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,359
packages would be stored

993
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,200
but just forward of that is a staircase

994
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,520
that goes down into the rope hold

995
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,920
and there's just some crazy history in

996
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:49,920
the entire space

997
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,560
that's kind of made itself a little more

998
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,119
known since we've been there

999
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,680
so there's you know the the queen mary

1000
00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:59,599
is this extraordinary place where

1001
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,079
you know today people see a landmark of

1002
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,319
long beach but it's a place where

1003
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,480
you know walt disney and you know

1004
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,520
marilyn monroe

1005
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,920
and bob hope and you know like anybody

1006
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,440
who was anybody sailed on her

1007
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,560
you know so uh truly legendary

1008
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,640
celebrities spent a lot of time there

1009
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,200
um so it's a it's a really cool place to

1010
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:20,880
get to spend time

1011
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:24,000
the s for you

1012
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,599
now that you've spent that much time on

1013
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,680
the ship the obvious question is a

1014
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:28,640
simple one

1015
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:31,599
are there more haunted sections of the

1016
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:32,240
ship than

1017
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,400
others um i have two opinions on it i

1018
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:38,400
think there are residual things that

1019
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,520
kind of run on a loop

1020
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:42,079
in certain places you know that just

1021
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:43,280
they just happen

1022
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,920
um and i think those individual things

1023
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,280
are kind of confined

1024
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,400
to certain places like the there's a

1025
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,640
pretty recurring regular haunt called

1026
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:55,040
the gent that shows up in sir winston's

1027
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:55,760
bar

1028
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:00,640
having a cocktail

1029
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:03,440
he shows up and he's completely in you

1030
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:03,839
know

1031
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:07,119
non-interactive with anybody people will

1032
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:08,079
walk up to him and

1033
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,400
talk to him and he won't acknowledge a

1034
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,440
presence

1035
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,440
um he just sits there and he drinks his

1036
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:15,119
drink and if you take your eyes off of

1037
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:16,800
him for a moment turn back around and

1038
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,599
he's gone

1039
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,520
so is the glass and there's no wet spot

1040
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,440
on the bar or anything else

1041
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,480
so i think there are residual hauntings

1042
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:26,079
that are confined to spaces but i also

1043
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,520
think there are intelligent things there

1044
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:29,040
that go where they will

1045
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,720
um by the theory that you have legs in

1046
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:34,160
life you can walk around and go where

1047
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,960
you want

1048
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,200
yeah why would that change in death yeah

1049
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:38,960
yeah exactly

1050
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,560
last uh what what's today tuesday i was

1051
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,480
i don't know if it was last week or

1052
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,079
yesterday i can't remember

1053
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,119
too many shows but i had uh

1054
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:52,400
one of our callers uh said

1055
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,319
that she took a tour now check this out

1056
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,560
okay and and and you let me know if this

1057
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,920
is possible to do

1058
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,520
you know obviously you guys know i'll be

1059
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:03,440
there on friday hanging out and it's

1060
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:04,640
going to be great

1061
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:08,160
she said that in 1987 that

1062
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:11,839
she took a tour of the queen mary

1063
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,280
and was down at the pool

1064
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,880
in the pool and the pool was empty okay

1065
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,319
yeah and there were other people that

1066
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:22,560
were there and she looks down

1067
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,880
and sees a guy cleaning the pool

1068
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,960
with uh you know one of those pool

1069
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:30,800
cleaning poles

1070
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:33,040
you know a broom or whatever you would

1071
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:33,839
call it a

1072
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,319
uh a mop or a scrub brush or something

1073
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:38,160
but he's cleaning the pool

1074
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,240
and then as she turns around she's

1075
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:41,760
hanging out and doing this and doing

1076
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:42,079
that

1077
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,920
and uh she turns around and he's gone

1078
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,560
and so

1079
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,040
she says to one of the people that work

1080
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,480
at the queen mary

1081
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,280
um are you guys do you guys clean the

1082
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:55,200
pool who's who is that guy that was down

1083
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,800
there he's not there anymore

1084
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:59,119
and the worker said what are you talking

1085
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,240
about

1086
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,160
we don't clean the pool there's there's

1087
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,079
nobody here that does that

1088
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:07,520
yeah now have you heard of a pool

1089
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:08,160
cleaner

1090
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,920
or anything like this down in the pool

1091
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,440
room before

1092
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,079
we haven't seen that um at all and since

1093
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:15,839
the pool's been closed to the public it

1094
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,720
seems like

1095
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,680
what was there now kind of roams the

1096
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,119
ship and

1097
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,599
you know goes looking for people instead

1098
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:25,520
and see if he was residual too there's

1099
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,240
nobody

1100
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:28,400
accessing the pool to even see him

1101
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,280
anymore yeah

1102
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,720
it's one of the the things about the

1103
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,839
dark zone event that's going to be

1104
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:32,880
really cool is

1105
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,880
no one's no one in forever has put up

1106
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,280
cameras that can run 24 hours a day on

1107
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,319
the pool

1108
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:42,400
you know just to see if something

1109
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,720
happens and most investigators that come

1110
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,480
to investigate they only get one day

1111
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,240
you know to so we're in this position

1112
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:50,079
this halloween to put up a camera for

1113
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,800
four days

1114
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:53,359
right now is there a that's just gonna

1115
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:53,839
run

1116
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:57,760
is there a pool camera there is oh

1117
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:01,520
now it's on okay yeah okay this is it's

1118
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,040
this is the bummer though is that if it

1119
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:05,280
captures anything we can't go into the

1120
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,839
pool

1121
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,160
so like at the they're literally laying

1122
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,079
down like a piece of board

1123
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,640
to protect the tile work and the camera

1124
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,480
will be mounted and then locked into the

1125
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,520
pool so

1126
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,200
but if something was an intelligent

1127
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,440
haunt you know if something got captured

1128
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:21,280
we could run down and stand outside of

1129
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,319
the doors of the pool

1130
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:24,319
and maybe interact enough ask if they

1131
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,839
want to come over to us

1132
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:28,319
well okay so that's okay so this is my

1133
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,440
request

1134
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,559
um as you know i'll be there friday uh

1135
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:35,280
ghost hunting for for about four hours

1136
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:35,839
right

1137
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:39,920
yeah um and i think i'm there

1138
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,240
from five until nine or ten

1139
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:47,200
can okay who is the team that i'm going

1140
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:48,720
to be hunting with

1141
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,280
you'll probably work with both of us um

1142
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,720
so

1143
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:54,720
basically becca will be in one spot i'll

1144
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,200
be in a spot each day and then

1145
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:59,040
they're still figuring out the timelines

1146
00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:00,480
and logistics but i think we're gonna

1147
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,280
switch

1148
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:04,160
to where you know everybody that is

1149
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:05,440
investigating with us gets an

1150
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,000
opportunity

1151
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,040
to go to multiple places and uh

1152
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,800
you know so we'll probably see both of

1153
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:12,240
it uh you'll probably see both of us at

1154
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,520
one point or the other

1155
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,280
okay i'm not going to be walking around

1156
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,280
by myself don't tell me

1157
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,880
okay i'm already scared enough man i'm

1158
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:21,839
scared enough

1159
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,119
so uh can i go down to the pool we can

1160
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,040
go to the outside of it but you right we

1161
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:28,960
won't be able to access the interior

1162
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:32,640
no no no no but i can go into the

1163
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,000
i can go into the pool room yeah you'll

1164
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:37,920
be able to go up to a window that's kind

1165
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,000
of on the main deck and look out

1166
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,520
um the camera is probably going to be

1167
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,040
the only thing that actually gets to get

1168
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:44,800
into the pull space it's just

1169
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,680
today it's just not safe and i hate to

1170
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:48,400
say it but

1171
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:50,000
you know part of the reason we want to

1172
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:51,520
set the cameras in there is just to see

1173
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,960
if anything happens at all you know

1174
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,079
there's so much

1175
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,119
myth about the pool that

1176
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,800
you know it may be that we put up a

1177
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,400
camera for four days and some really

1178
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:02,160
wicked stuff happens or

1179
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:04,319
uh maybe four days goes by and nothing

1180
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:05,920
happens at all

1181
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:09,119
um i'm so excited about this now if okay

1182
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,640
so if you and you're gonna be doing this

1183
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,680
uh a week from this friday with me um if

1184
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:16,880
you're gonna take me

1185
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,760
which you are to the spot on the ship

1186
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,599
where are you gonna take me first

1187
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,520
uh that's a good question i i don't know

1188
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:25,520
how they're gonna do the schedule just

1189
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,920
yet

1190
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,839
if we're going to you know how many

1191
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:29,680
places we're going to each day

1192
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,880
or if the show was going to progress

1193
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,559
you know to where thursday we might be

1194
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,640
in one section of the ship and then

1195
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,359
friday another they're still kind of

1196
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:42,000
sketching that out i do know that while

1197
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,359
over the course of the four days we'll

1198
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,040
be investigating and

1199
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:47,280
uh the forward rope hold uh in our

1200
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:48,800
theater space

1201
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:52,240
uh as well as the children's playroom uh

1202
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:56,839
the queen salon uh room b340

1203
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,319
um sir winston's

1204
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,520
uh and in the engine room so um

1205
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,280
so i have no idea where we're gonna end

1206
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:07,280
up but there are so many creepy cool

1207
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:08,720
places that i guarantee it's gonna be

1208
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,280
awesome

1209
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:11,440
you know it's just wherever you go with

1210
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:12,400
us is going to be cool

1211
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:15,599
yeah i just cannot wait for this and um

1212
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:16,000
i

1213
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:22,000
paranormal teams on and we

1214
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,760
i love talking ghosts and things i've

1215
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:25,680
seen a couple of things in my life

1216
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,800
but i've always thought i don't know if

1217
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,200
i

1218
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,319
want to be the paranormal

1219
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,760
ghost hunting crew guy it's too freaky

1220
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,720
for me

1221
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,640
most of these teams as we all know

1222
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,640
they're in complete darkness

1223
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,960
when you see it on tv you're looking at

1224
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,960
night vision you're looking at you know

1225
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:46,960
different things but but they're walking

1226
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,440
around in the dark

1227
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,559
yeah so i am the biggest kind of scaredy

1228
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:54,319
cat i've gotten a little bit braver

1229
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,440
i have uh irrational fear of the dark

1230
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,359
so even though i was interested in

1231
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,200
wanting to investigate

1232
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,720
you know when i first started i was

1233
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,839
definitely hesitant and

1234
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,440
scared i didn't know what to expect but

1235
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,960
honestly i

1236
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:12,960
put me anywhere on the queen and i feel

1237
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,000
perfectly fine

1238
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,200
it's just it's it's not a dark spooky

1239
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,520
scary place it's just a place that a lot

1240
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,119
of people have been and have had a lot

1241
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,440
of great memories or significant life

1242
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:24,480
moments

1243
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:28,079
so you know and even our one

1244
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:31,200
[\h__\h] that we interact with you know

1245
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,319
i'm even

1246
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,480
i just kind of uh egg him on at this

1247
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:36,000
point so i i wouldn't

1248
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:39,440
be too freaked out oh i'm freaked out

1249
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,160
but i i can't wait for it we need to

1250
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,160
take a break so let's get this

1251
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,480
in right now we'll be right back our

1252
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:48,319
guest tonight aiden sinclair

1253
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:51,119
and of course becca knight and coming up

1254
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:52,160
in the next hour

1255
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,359
susan slaughter will be with us now i

1256
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:56,720
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1260
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right now you need to get as

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i do it securely do what i do please

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1277
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:43,440
to black

1278
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,640
continuing our haunted rocktober tonight

1279
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:48,400
we are talking about the haunted queen

1280
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,119
mary

1281
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,920
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00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,680
november 1st

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1286
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1287
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,750
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hello this is serena wright taylor from

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and you're listening to fade to black

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with jimmy church

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who holds the lucky pony record for the

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best astrological chart since

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1963. true story

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this is micah hanks of the grealian

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church on fade to black

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all right welcome back fade to black

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tonight we are discussing

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our haunted weekend that's going down

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next weekend over halloween

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aboard the queen mary our guest tonight

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aiden sinclair becca knight and at the

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bottom of the hour susan slaughter joins

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us and i

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now uh aiden if you could can you walk

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me through the technical layout what

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kind of gear

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do you guys use do you use

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when you uh go ghost hunting and

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and how is the ship laid out and

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kind of from one extreme to the other we

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use uh

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from uh super low tech to super high

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tech i suppose

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our lowest tech device we use is the uh

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high and mighty cat ball

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that you can get on amazon for like

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three to a pack for 10 bucks

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um they're like those motion activated

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like you have to physically touch

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these little balls to make them light up

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like you know that little cats play with

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um so what's cool about them is they

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require you know

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direct physical contact to actually do

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anything

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uh and we get some pretty cool kind of

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interactions with those on the ship

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on the high tech side of things uh we

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use

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the estes method quite a bit uh which is

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a

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time

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and it involves taking a spirit box but

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instead of having

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you know the entire group sit around

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listening to the thing

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you isolate one individual and that

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person is placed in noise cancelling

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sound isolating headphones so all that

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person hears

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is the audio coming out of the spirit

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box you also blindfold that person so

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they can't see anything in the room

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and their job is really to say anything

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that they hear

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you know any word that they make out

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they say

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where it gets really interesting is when

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you start having question answer

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sessions in a room

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and you get intelligent responses to

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questions

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coming from someone who can't hear the

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questions being asked

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so you know it prompts you to kind of be

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very curious of where these answers

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coming from

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and then we also use you know the

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standards kind of k2 meters and data

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loggers

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and laser grids we'll set that kind of

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stuff up just to see what we can capture

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and that's just the equipment that we

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have um the different investigators that

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are coming in too

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have their you know own methods that

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they're used to investigating with that

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they're going to bring on and

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see what happens with that yeah tony

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rathman's bringing some cool toys to

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to set up on the ship for the first time

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see how they do uh

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chad lundberg's usually got a bunch of

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gear yeah yeah and chad's a blast

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everybody knows kind of chad from you

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know his tv and film

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kind of career but he's he's an avid

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investigator of the paranormal and

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uh did a paranormal series actually with

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john tenney for a while

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um he's a really great investigator

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yeah everybody that is is coming down

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there

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is is top-notch and and i have a lot of

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respect for

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i'm going to say this though pfeiffer um

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and the st's method i've i know those

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guys

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and uh watching

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them go through that

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is one of the moments it's one of the

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most tormenting

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right uh that

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that's freaky stuff and and i think that

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they're on to something

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very much are and i i hate to say it but

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it was super

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when i first met them i was magician at

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the stanley and they were paranormal

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investigators at the stanley so

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um seeing the results that they had in

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their investigations were some of the

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things that started pushing me

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you know towards investigating the

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paranormal um

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and outside of that just kind of the

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things that started happening in shows

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in general

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like on any given night that we would do

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a show there were things happening that

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were not part of the show that were

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profound uh

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and people would come up to me after

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show say you know oh i really liked

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this and i'm like haha greg you'd like

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that because we didn't

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do that you know that wasn't that wasn't

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us so

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um so they really kind of got me into

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the

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that method progress and unfold it's an

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incredibly compelling way to investigate

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01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,079
and it's

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uh from a skeptical point of view it's

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01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:48,319
also very clean you know there's

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01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:49,839
there's there's really no you know

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01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,839
confirmation bias or influence with it

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01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:53,440
because the person that is

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speaking is isolated you know i i can't

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imagine

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uh the dreamscape

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that the brain is going through

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01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:07,760
during an sd session i i

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i i just can't imagine yeah i i just

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01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:11,680
can't imagine no drugs allowed either

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01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:12,319
right

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01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:17,589
i trivial because i'm a magician as well

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01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:19,599
like i've when we started investigating

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01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:21,119
i've investigated for

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almost a decade um but

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01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:27,440
i generally did it on my time quietly

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01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:30,880
you know privately and to i guess that

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01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:32,720
was two years ago that becca got me to

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01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:34,240
kind of open it up to the public

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01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,760
was about a year and a half two years

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01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,599
ago um

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01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:39,440
so anytime we would do investigations on

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01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:40,880
the ship just because of my

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01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:43,359
profession becca and i will demonstrate

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01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:44,960
the estus method when we do a public

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01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:46,640
investigation of like hey this is how it

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01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,359
works

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01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:49,200
but then we step away from it you know

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01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:50,640
we've always

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01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:53,839
you know tried to not kind of get

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01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:56,319
involved we like to document and record

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01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,920
all the data which means friday you'll

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01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,599
probably get your opportunity to

1570
01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:01,359
get inside the headphones and find out

1571
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,640
what that experience is

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01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:04,559
oh don't get ahead of your skis there

1573
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:06,559
becca

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01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:09,920
slow your roll but honestly

1575
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,599
it uh we have gotten the best

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01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:15,839
conversations i guess out of people that

1577
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,920
have no idea what they're doing and put

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01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:19,599
on the headphones for the first time

1579
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:21,200
sure that is when some of our most

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01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,799
compelling evidence has

1581
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:24,960
has happened i think it's interesting

1582
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,559
though sometimes when it's the fir

1583
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,079
the person's first time they don't know

1584
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:30,000
what to expect so they're a little more

1585
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:30,480
open

1586
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:32,480
and then they're they're a little more

1587
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:34,160
comfortable saying you know all right

1588
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:35,119
i'll say whatever i

1589
01:04:40,870 --> 01:04:38,559
i hear um and and we've had things

1590
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:40,880
happen on the ship that were just

1591
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,599
just if if they weren't on video there's

1592
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:45,280
times that i would question whether they

1593
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:46,319
happened or not but

1594
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:47,760
we've literally gone back and had to go

1595
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:49,760
nope that that happened that was a real

1596
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:50,400
thing

1597
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:53,520
now i'm going to bring

1598
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:56,240
i'm gonna bring i've got some military

1599
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:57,280
grade

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01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,839
uh the serious stuff i've got uh night

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01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:01,280
vision goggles

1602
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,720
sweet the the real ones so i'm gonna

1603
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:06,240
bring those and i also

1604
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,599
have a high-end uh tascam digital

1605
01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:11,520
recorder portable field recorder

1606
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:12,640
professional

1607
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:16,240
so i'm gonna bring that too

1608
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:19,359
um and and i would like to do uh

1609
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:23,200
have the opportunity uh to to

1610
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:27,039
hopefully capture some evps but also

1611
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:30,559
in the darkness uh to have

1612
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:33,599
uh military night vision goggles

1613
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,680
in the dark uh to see uh any anomalies

1614
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,760
that may be happening at the same time

1615
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:41,359
something else kicks off

1616
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:43,119
right whether it's the last places for

1617
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:45,520
you to try that yeah

1618
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:47,760
absolutely and uh becca's already like

1619
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,349
you know every time we have

1620
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,599
investigations or even just doing his

1621
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,359
regular show that we will have people be

1622
01:06:01,670 --> 01:05:59,119
like i think i see something over there

1623
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,680
but your human eye doesn't catch it or

1624
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:03,039
you doubt it and

1625
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:05,200
and it's gone and we've had confirmation

1626
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,880
in some of our esta sessions that yeah

1627
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,119
we are in fact seeing someone so

1628
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:11,359
but be curious if you would be able to

1629
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,400
in fact

1630
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:14,559
see them in those areas where they uh

1631
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:15,440
frequent

1632
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,480
yeah i'm i'm i i'm so excited for this

1633
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:20,559
now it's it's going to be a blast it

1634
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:21,599
really is

1635
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:25,039
and the other side of this is that um

1636
01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:27,280
at no time in history since the queen

1637
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:30,240
has really sailed or been in long beach

1638
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,920
has anyone done what we're about to do

1639
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:33,920
the ship is completely empty

1640
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:37,440
there there's just us so there's no

1641
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:38,960
tourists you know walking down the

1642
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:40,960
hallway above your head there's

1643
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:42,880
there's no other outside noise you know

1644
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:45,200
it is literally just us and the ship is

1645
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,079
powered down drastically

1646
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,079
so it's a little bit spookier than

1647
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,000
normal just because of the feel of the

1648
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:53,839
emptiness

1649
01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:56,079
and i it seems like the security staff

1650
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:57,359
and the people that are still on the

1651
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:58,400
ship

1652
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,520
been having more experiences of seeing

1653
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:03,440
people and seeing things and

1654
01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:06,720
um so it's almost as if the ship's woken

1655
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:07,599
up a little bit

1656
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,920
on the paranormal side while she's you

1657
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,839
know gone to sleep on the public side so

1658
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,359
i think there might be a couple entities

1659
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,680
it will be grouchy that we're back that

1660
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,440
people have come and crashed their party

1661
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,880
but there's definitely going to be a few

1662
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:20,559
that are like oh my god people you're

1663
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:21,039
back

1664
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,079
yeah let's have fun well i had uh

1665
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,400
let me let me run this past you too uh

1666
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,000
at last

1667
01:07:32,069 --> 01:07:30,480
uh i keep losing track of the days here

1668
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:32,079
i think it was last

1669
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:35,200
last wednesday

1670
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:38,559
uh i had karen dalman on the show and we

1671
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:38,960
did

1672
01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:42,799
a live ouija session and

1673
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:46,000
one of the questions that i had was

1674
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:48,640
you know over halloween weekend friday

1675
01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:50,079
the 30th

1676
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:53,599
um i'm going to be on the queen mary

1677
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:57,920
is it possible for

1678
01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:00,160
you you know whoever i'm communicating

1679
01:08:02,789 --> 01:08:01,760
with with the spirit board at that

1680
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:02,799
moment

1681
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,559
to reach out to me on the deck of the

1682
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:06,240
ship and

1683
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:09,440
and the response was crazy

1684
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:12,079
the response was something i'm going to

1685
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,359
speak in metaphor here

1686
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,039
a little bit you know i can't go word

1687
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:18,080
for word but it was something about

1688
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:21,600
we have been to the bottom of the ship

1689
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:25,279
and the message is

1690
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:27,600
and then it was followed with a question

1691
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:28,640
mark

1692
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:31,839
so karen um has since

1693
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,679
gone back and got what the question mark

1694
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:38,159
is so i'm going to be armed and

1695
01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:38,880
dangerous

1696
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:41,600
on the ship with this information that's

1697
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,080
awesome

1698
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:44,880
and i'll find out where it is and and

1699
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:47,120
what is possible here

1700
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:49,040
but we're going to reach out let's let's

1701
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:51,600
see if we can get some action there

1702
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:54,560
yeah i'm excited just to see you know

1703
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:55,279
what we get

1704
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:58,159
um over a year and a half we had

1705
01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,159
recurring interactions

1706
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:02,159
with a couple of things can you tell me

1707
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,000
about that uh really quick i wanted to

1708
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,080
ask have you heard like footsteps or

1709
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:08,319
seen things we've had full-on

1710
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:09,279
conversations

1711
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:13,520
using estes and k2 together

1712
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:21,510
so part of it is that uh you know we

1713
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:24,480
when we opened our theater we play 1930s

1714
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:25,679
music in that room

1715
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,520
24 7. you know and we seem to have found

1716
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:31,120
somebody who really likes that who likes

1717
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:32,000
the music

1718
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:34,239
and uh a conversation what's a

1719
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,319
conversation with the spirit like

1720
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:39,040
take me through that just like talking

1721
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:39,520
to you

1722
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:43,040
now except you know it's uh

1723
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:45,120
it's just through the estes method and

1724
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,719
you know sometimes the words that

1725
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:48,960
someone hears through the spirit box is

1726
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,159
gibberish or um

1727
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:54,080
it doesn't make any sense and it's just

1728
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,360
whatever words they're hearing through

1729
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:57,440
the radio but there are times where it

1730
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:58,480
will be

1731
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,120
full sentences and just coherent

1732
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:03,120
conversations that will last

1733
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,480
for 10 minutes at a time yeah

1734
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:08,080
and then they kind of fade out that's

1735
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,920
kind of a trip but it's

1736
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,920
literally a normal conversation sure

1737
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:13,760
sure and and how do you

1738
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:16,400
have and i'm not being facetious here

1739
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,800
i'm not

1740
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:19,199
you know trying to be cavalier or joking

1741
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,800
how do you have a conversation with the

1742
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,040
spirit do you talk about

1743
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,520
normal stuff family life how are the

1744
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:26,640
kids

1745
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:29,760
or we've kind of learned a bit

1746
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:32,080
i mean it's a it's a learn as you go

1747
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:32,880
process

1748
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:35,280
um one of the things we learned about

1749
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,040
the ship is tense matters

1750
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,600
when you if you go into an investigation

1751
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:41,120
on the queen mary and you say things

1752
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,440
like

1753
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:43,440
were you a passenger on the ship were

1754
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:45,360
you into did you work on the ship and

1755
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:47,360
you put things in the past tense

1756
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:50,320
you generally get nothing but if you put

1757
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:52,159
things in the present tense of going hi

1758
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,520
is there anybody here that works on the

1759
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:54,800
ship is there anybody here

1760
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:57,199
that is a passenger on the ship you get

1761
01:11:01,910 --> 01:10:58,480
these

1762
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:01,920
responses um why do you think that is

1763
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,719
is it because they're not aware that

1764
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,640
it's a past tense situation

1765
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,080
yeah i think there's some that aren't

1766
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,480
aware but that being said we also have

1767
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:12,080
recurring interactions with someone who

1768
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:13,600
is acutely aware of

1769
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,040
time and space and

1770
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,640
he's probably our most regular

1771
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,320
interaction on the ship

1772
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,640
and he just comes across to somebody who

1773
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,719
who may have passed on the ship and has

1774
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:26,719
just stayed there ever since

1775
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,800
um doesn't really want to go anyplace

1776
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,480
else um

1777
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:33,120
and has uh nothing really in the world

1778
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,000
for him

1779
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,400
and is very kind of sullen in a lot of

1780
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:37,920
his interactions

1781
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:41,120
um do you have to

1782
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:46,709
you know well part of it too is like

1783
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,520
when we when we do the show like i dress

1784
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:51,920
in a suit and tie and you know but more

1785
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:53,920
of a vintage kind of feel to it and

1786
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:55,600
becca's got her hair up and victory

1787
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:56,640
rolls and

1788
01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:00,000
you know so i think that also matters

1789
01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:01,440
there's times we've investigated in

1790
01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:02,480
jeans and a t-shirt

1791
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,679
you know on a day off and we got nothing

1792
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,360
i honestly just came across a video

1793
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,040
today from you know a year and a half

1794
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,800
ago where i switched out of my show

1795
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:12,000
clothes but i still have my victory

1796
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:12,719
rolls up and

1797
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,120
absolutely nothing happened yeah um so

1798
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:16,560
there's something about kind of

1799
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:19,120
triggering making them feel comfortable

1800
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,159
or feel as if they're

1801
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,400
in their proper time and space do you

1802
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:24,239
have to approach it with

1803
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:27,840
a dose of empathy we try to

1804
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:29,920
right um i mean we don't look for ghosts

1805
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:31,040
we try to talk to people

1806
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:32,880
our soul and guy i'm always trying to

1807
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:36,560
give a pep talk to that he refuses

1808
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,239
yeah and there are there are other

1809
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:40,159
paranormal uh

1810
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:43,360
teams out there without naming names but

1811
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,280
they tend to go with intimidation

1812
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:49,600
right where it feels a little bit too

1813
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:50,320
strong

1814
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:52,800
to me where you're trying to make

1815
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:53,360
something

1816
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:56,640
angry here's the thing is that that

1817
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:59,679
a long time ago bruce springsteen did a

1818
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,159
quote

1819
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,239
or did an interview with 60 minutes a

1820
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,560
long time ago and

1821
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,080
the guy who was interviewing bruce

1822
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,480
springsteen says you know

1823
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,480
you portray yourself as being a working

1824
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:12,239
man and you make music for the working

1825
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:12,960
man but

1826
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:14,640
people would say today that you live in

1827
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,880
a mansion how do you feel about that

1828
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:18,719
and his response was you know what i've

1829
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:20,560
lived on streets with

1830
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,239
trailer parks and i've lived on streets

1831
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:23,760
with mansions

1832
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:27,199
and there's jerks on every street so

1833
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,880
it doesn't matter what you do there's

1834
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,880
always going to be people who are

1835
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:32,960
adversarial or confrontational in their

1836
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,360
approaches to things

1837
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:37,120
and i truly think that you get what you

1838
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:38,480
give you know

1839
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,120
if you go into the if you go into a

1840
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,880
situation and you're aggressive

1841
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:45,679
and you're you know kind of

1842
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:46,800
confrontational then

1843
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:47,760
what do you think you're going to get

1844
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:49,600
back it might also just be a lack of

1845
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,560
patience too

1846
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:52,320
you know we've gone in and approached it

1847
01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:54,880
and we're we're willing to take time to

1848
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,960
build trust and we're not going anywhere

1849
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,640
we're lucky that we have the residency

1850
01:14:01,189 --> 01:14:00,320
and the ability to go back again and

1851
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,199
again

1852
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:03,040
so i think you get a you might get a

1853
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:04,880
quicker response with aggression and

1854
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,360
annoying the heck out of someone but if

1855
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:09,199
we go in with empathy and kindness

1856
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,640
you know we get someone that might be

1857
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:12,640
willing to talk to us and continue a

1858
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:13,520
conversation

1859
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:16,159
and the either that we can help or at

1860
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:16,560
least

1861
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:19,440
just bring some company to sometimes

1862
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:20,800
yeah it's also

1863
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,920
well i was gonna say i'm sorry no no

1864
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:24,880
you're talking go ahead

1865
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:26,800
twice i talked over you well what i was

1866
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:28,159
gonna say um if

1867
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:31,520
if you if you go in with uh some empathy

1868
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:34,080
some compassion maybe some humor

1869
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,520
i don't think you're gonna leave with

1870
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,199
claw marks on your neck

1871
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:39,600
no right and even even the claw marks

1872
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,920
man you know i i take with a grain of

1873
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,679
salt like people want to put a negative

1874
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,199
interpretation on

1875
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:47,920
on a scratch a lot of times but you know

1876
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,400
if you

1877
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,480
have been trying to manifest all your

1878
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:52,480
energy to maybe poke somebody or touch

1879
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:53,360
somebody

1880
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,800
and maybe that's all it was with

1881
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,719
somebody who finally is reaching out to

1882
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:58,320
just tap you on the shoulder and that's

1883
01:15:00,790 --> 01:15:00,000
the moment when you kind of turned your

1884
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:00,800
body

1885
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:03,199
and all they caught was their nail you

1886
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,239
know there's

1887
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,080
accidents happen both in the normal and

1888
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,400
the paranormal you know i i don't

1889
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,600
i don't think every negative

1890
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:11,920
manifestation that people report is

1891
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:15,840
in in fact negative for one um

1892
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,920
and for two i think it's also kind of

1893
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:19,040
that

1894
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:23,520
for me ghost

1895
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:25,679
most people investigate the paranormal

1896
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,520
and go looking for ghosts it's you know

1897
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:29,280
knock on the wall with shaving a haircut

1898
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,719
and you know

1899
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:33,280
do something if you're here and we try

1900
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,159
to approach it

1901
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,719
in in a very opposite way we try to say

1902
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:39,120
hey we're here if you want to talk to us

1903
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:40,719
and if there's something that we can do

1904
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:43,520
for you even if it's just to listen to

1905
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:43,920
you

1906
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:49,280
if we say that hey we're going to be

1907
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,159
there on friday we're there on friday

1908
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,320
if something comes up and we couldn't be

1909
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,920
there on friday then we would make the

1910
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,120
effort to go onto the ship

1911
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,360
and go into that space and go hey i know

1912
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:01,679
we said we would be here on friday but

1913
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,679
this came up and we can't be you know so

1914
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,760
we think all of that matters integrity

1915
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:09,760
matters to the past just as much to the

1916
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:10,560
living

1917
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:13,679
now i know that you've had conversations

1918
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:16,480
and you've made contact but have you

1919
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:17,679
seen

1920
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:22,239
apparition

1921
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:25,440
neither of us i don't think we i debate

1922
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:25,920
about it

1923
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,679
been given a

1924
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,840
photo of what someone thinks might have

1925
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:33,199
been jackie

1926
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,800
um that we lean towards trusting as

1927
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:37,760
being a thing

1928
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:40,800
um just because this wasn't a woman that

1929
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,120
seemed to know her way around photoshop

1930
01:16:46,830 --> 01:16:45,199
um you know the story in which it came

1931
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:46,840
to her

1932
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:49,600
uh seemed right

1933
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:53,920
um but beyond that um

1934
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:56,560
i maybe have seen our gentleman in the

1935
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:57,040
theater

1936
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:59,040
maybe um but it's again it's one of

1937
01:17:02,149 --> 01:17:00,480
those things out of the corner your eye

1938
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:02,159
that you're not too sure about

1939
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,920
but you're just a little bit more sure

1940
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:06,080
that time and then um

1941
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,600
when we did a uh um the titanic

1942
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:11,120
anniversary of

1943
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:14,159
his show up in the queen salon um it was

1944
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:15,440
the first time we've ever

1945
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,880
been able to let people go to the

1946
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:18,400
restroom during the show to where they

1947
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,600
could return

1948
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:22,239
um because usually we have a one-way in

1949
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:23,440
uh

1950
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:25,120
showroom down in our theater and since

1951
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:26,400
we're up in the queen salon there was

1952
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:27,920
access to go in and out

1953
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:30,239
so i was watching people get up and go

1954
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:32,719
back and forth to the bathroom and

1955
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:35,120
watching these people come back in and i

1956
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:36,320
saw someone cross

1957
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:39,360
behind the row of heads next to me and

1958
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:40,640
then when they would have stepped in

1959
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:41,920
front of those heads

1960
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:44,800
there was no person and all i saw you

1961
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,280
know

1962
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:47,760
when looking was this kind of swoosh of

1963
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:48,880
a white dress

1964
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:51,040
and then it disappeared and that's in

1965
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:52,480
the same area

1966
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,640
that uh the lady in white has often seen

1967
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:56,480
is up in the queen salon so my question

1968
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:57,760
is to

1969
01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,159
whether we invited her out that night by

1970
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:01,679
having a party with

1971
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:04,880
dinner and drinks and a show so

1972
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,159
and we've had guests that have seen uh

1973
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:10,960
a man dressed in a period sailor's

1974
01:18:16,870 --> 01:18:13,840
uniform in our theater

1975
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,880
that there was no explanation for in our

1976
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,080
bartender

1977
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:20,239
uh one night you know we have we have a

1978
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:21,280
50-seat theater

1979
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:24,560
and the exits you are you can't get out

1980
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,920
of the theater without either walking

1981
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:27,120
past me or walking past

1982
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:29,360
becca and at the end of the night our

1983
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:31,040
bartender's cleaning up and she asked

1984
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,560
you know hey did that guy not like the

1985
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:34,159
show and we're like what guy

1986
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,600
she was like the guy that walked out

1987
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,360
like five minutes into the show so she

1988
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:38,640
saw a guy

1989
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:41,760
you know literally leave the room when

1990
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:42,719
nobody did

1991
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:44,480
so to this day we have no idea who she

1992
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:47,120
saw the guy didn't speak to her just

1993
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,800
walked out but the theater was full

1994
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:50,400
nobody left the show

1995
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,159
and where the theater is it's absolutely

1996
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:54,080
impossible for anybody to access that

1997
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,800
space

1998
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,400
we also had a couple women tell us they

1999
01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:58,000
liked the cracker jack sailor

2000
01:19:01,590 --> 01:19:00,159
uh peeking out and watching them watch

2001
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:01,600
the show no

2002
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:04,800
that's not in the budget yeah no no no

2003
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:07,760
no oh that's awesome uh here's here's

2004
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:08,000
the

2005
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:14,159
and this was just a tweeted to me from

2006
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:15,600
uh australia

2007
01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:18,800
that there are 49 reported deaths

2008
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:21,920
during the service of the queen mary so

2009
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,560
you know when

2010
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:25,040
when people contemplate that or ponder

2011
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,600
well i wonder if anybody's ever died

2012
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,840
aboard the queen mary well we've got

2013
01:19:33,189 --> 01:19:31,199
there's more than that there's more than

2014
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:33,199
49 actually

2015
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:36,239
and uh hundreds more that she uh

2016
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:40,480
caused oh okay

2017
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,080
look you guys i'm scared enough yeah no

2018
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,560
no there was uh if i remember correctly

2019
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:48,000
because i haven't been down my hallway

2020
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,679
we have a hallway into our theater that

2021
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:51,120
has

2022
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:55,120
was 67

2023
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:58,239
that died on the ship wow um and

2024
01:20:01,669 --> 01:20:01,120
uh and she was involved in an accident

2025
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:01,679
world war

2026
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:03,440
ii that caused the death of over 300

2027
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:05,840
sailors on another ship

2028
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,920
but i don't a lot of people contribute a

2029
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:09,360
lot of paranormal activity on the ship

2030
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:11,440
to that accident i don't believe

2031
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:15,040
in that personally but what i do find

2032
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:16,800
interesting is on the very first round

2033
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:17,280
trip

2034
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:20,480
of the queen mary somebody died

2035
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:23,280
it was a young a young sailor fell and

2036
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:24,400
split his head open

2037
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:27,120
it was an accident but that's how she

2038
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:29,120
started her recorded history

2039
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:32,239
but she ends her history that way as

2040
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:32,639
well

2041
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:35,760
because in 1967 when the last voyage

2042
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,280
takes place

2043
01:20:40,629 --> 01:20:39,920
uh a cook died he died of heat stroke

2044
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,639
heat over

2045
01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:42,639
overheated and collapsed while he was

2046
01:20:46,149 --> 01:20:44,320
baking bread overnight

2047
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:46,159
and because he worked alone nobody saw

2048
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,239
him fall and the heat exhaustion turned

2049
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,760
into heat stroke so

2050
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:51,360
there was a death on her first round

2051
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:52,880
trip and there was a death on her final

2052
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,800
trip as well so it kind of bookends this

2053
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:56,080
history of

2054
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:58,320
of life on the queen mary there are

2055
01:21:02,790 --> 01:20:59,120
spirits

2056
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,800
walking all over yeah but i also

2057
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:05,280
subscribe to the belief that um i don't

2058
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:06,800
think you have to die someplace to haunt

2059
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:08,080
a place either

2060
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:10,000
you know outside of the tragedy that's

2061
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,520
happened on the queen mary you know it's

2062
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:13,199
a place where people fell in love it's a

2063
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,719
place where people had their honeymoons

2064
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:16,080
it's a place where people still get

2065
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:18,400
married to this day

2066
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,679
and maybe that's what heaven is for

2067
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:21,600
somebody you know spending eternity in

2068
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:22,960
that one little moment

2069
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:25,679
where you were the most happy you know

2070
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:26,000
and

2071
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:29,360
how awesome would that be i'm so oh i'm

2072
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:30,400
sorry i'm sorry

2073
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,000
i know that's that's what i personally

2074
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:33,920
believe a lot of that activity on the

2075
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:36,480
ship is it's not negative at all but

2076
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:39,360
you know but good and you know they're

2077
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:40,719
happy memories

2078
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:42,880
well i think that next weekend is is

2079
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:44,560
going to be historical i

2080
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:47,679
i totally agree i've spent time

2081
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:50,239
uh i've been down to the queen mary many

2082
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,800
times i've been on board a few times

2083
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:54,960
and there's something about the ship

2084
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:56,000
i've even

2085
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:58,080
cruised around it on a private boat you

2086
01:22:03,590 --> 01:21:59,840
know right up next to it

2087
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:03,600
and there's just something about

2088
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:06,880
the way she's sitting there silent

2089
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:10,560
she's massive um and and

2090
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:14,000
and seems alive but sullen at the same

2091
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,719
time

2092
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,880
there's just there's something going on

2093
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:19,360
there i i can't wait for next weekend

2094
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:21,360
it's gonna be insane i mean i honestly i

2095
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:22,880
think the biggest ghost is

2096
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:26,239
is the ship itself you know it's the um

2097
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:28,239
i told becca once that when you there's

2098
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:29,920
days that i pull up the ship

2099
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,639
and she's majestic and inviting and you

2100
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:34,239
can't wait to get a border

2101
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:35,600
and then there's other days you pull up

2102
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:37,120
to her and you look at her and it's just

2103
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:38,960
disheartening you know to see this

2104
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,360
ship that is never going to sail again

2105
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:43,679
her engines are gone

2106
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,760
and she's just tied up to appear and

2107
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:47,600
right next to her these carnival cruise

2108
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:49,120
lines come and go

2109
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:51,280
with not even a quarter of the majesty

2110
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,360
that you know the queen mary possesses

2111
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,159
you know the elegance isn't there and

2112
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:57,920
what would that be like to live

2113
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,480
beyond your usefulness you know to to

2114
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,719
live beyond your purpose and that

2115
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:04,560
you know the queen has sat at that pier

2116
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:06,080
longer though than she ever

2117
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,760
sailed she's been in long beach longer

2118
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:09,760
than she ever worked as a ship

2119
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:12,320
aiden thank you so much becca thank you

2120
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:14,080
so much i look forward to uh hanging out

2121
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,360
with you guys next friday night it's

2122
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:17,040
gonna be a blast jimmy stay safe and

2123
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,320
thanks for having us on man

2124
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:20,400
absolutely you guys be safe and we'll

2125
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:22,800
we'll see each other in about nine days

2126
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:25,520
it's gonna be good man thank you so much

2127
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:26,480
what

2128
01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:30,239
great conversation

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hi i'm rhys vance you're listening to

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jimmy church

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this is revolution the revolution will

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not be televised

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ciao

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welcome back fade to black i'm real

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jimmy church

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tonight continuing our haunted rocktober

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01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,560
that's right we're discussing our

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01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:36,159
halloween weekend

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next week on the queen mary and

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now joining us is susan slaughter who

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began

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01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:45,280
her paranormal adventures after winning

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01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,239
season one

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01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:48,320
as an investigator in training on the

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01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,600
hit sci-fi show

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01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,080
ghost hunters academy susan then

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01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:54,239
graduated the case manager on the hit

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01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:55,360
sci-fi show

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01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:57,920
ghost hunters international for three

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01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:58,719
seasons

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01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:01,120
after the show she continued to research

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01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:03,120
with a variety of paranormal groups

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around the country and i would like to

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01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:06,159
welcome the first time to fade to black

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01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:08,320
susan slaughter susan good evening how

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01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,159
are you

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01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:12,239
hey jimmy thanks for having me on how

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01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,320
are you i am fantastic

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01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,880
and this is the thing first time guest

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01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,639
on the show we love first time guests

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01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:19,920
and you get

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01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:23,600
the first time guest disclaimer

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01:29:28,229 --> 01:29:26,639
is this it's uh susan it's just you and

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01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:28,239
i sitting on my couch having a

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01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:30,000
conversation as friends and

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01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,760
where the conversation starts it starts

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01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:33,600
where it ends it ends but we're gonna

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01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:34,639
end his friends

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there you go you ready i'm ready

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01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:41,760
now here's the deal next weekend uh

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01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:44,080
is gonna be pretty amazing and i am

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01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,159
really looking forward to this

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01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,199
and and the audience here has heard me

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01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:50,880
say many times over the years

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01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,400
you know what i'm going to leave ghost

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01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,280
hunting to the professionals right

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01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:58,320
i'm i'm much safer at home

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01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:01,440
uh but uh here i go i'm jumping in with

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01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:02,560
both feet

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01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:06,080
but you chose to do this

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01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:09,920
um you you you win ghost hunters academy

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01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:12,320
you you continue for three seasons on

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01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:14,480
ghost hunters international

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01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,520
uh are you are you nuts or is this

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01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:19,199
something that you've just always wanted

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01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:21,840
to do

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01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:24,800
i've always been i guess privy to the

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01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:27,440
paranormal since i was a child i

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01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:31,280
had encounters personal experiences with

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01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:34,480
the unexplained not just ghosts but

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01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:37,199
all sorts of strange little occurrences

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01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:38,719
in my life and i was just trying to make

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01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:39,440
sense of them

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01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:43,120
and um i guess you know i've had a lot

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of

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01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:46,000
near-death experiences growing up in

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south florida i lived a pretty rowdy

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01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,480
life

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01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,639
and i don't know i just wanted to

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understand you know

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01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:53,440
i guess at the end of the day when you

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understand life after death you

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01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:57,360
understand the meaning of life itself

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and i think that's the biggest question

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01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:01,280
to ask at the end of the day

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01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,440
i think everybody needs to you know

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01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:05,199
answer those questions for themselves

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01:31:08,310 --> 01:31:06,400
and i think

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uh you know investigating the paranormal

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01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:11,040
is one one way to go about it

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01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:13,920
with uh with what is happening now with

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01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:16,320
network television where we've got

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01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:19,360
four five six seven networks running

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01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:22,560
paranormal investigations 24 hours a day

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right and there's a reason for that

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01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:25,840
people are

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01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:29,920
are hungry for this they want to know

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01:31:36,790 --> 01:31:33,840
is is is one feeding the other

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01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:36,800
is network television driving paranormal

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01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:38,000
investigators

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01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:39,760
or would this have happened without

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01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:45,189
i mean paranormal investigations have

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01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:47,199
been happening way before tv

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01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:50,480
made it popular i mean um

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01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:52,159
let's talk about the warrens for

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01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:53,760
instance you know they were

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01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:55,920
investigating places like the amityville

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01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:56,480
and even

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the conjuring house

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01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:03,760
and um they were doing this for you know

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01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:05,920
their own encounters to help families

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01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:07,280
who were dealing with stressful

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01:32:09,990 --> 01:32:09,360
paranormal situations they weren't doing

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01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:10,000
it

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01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:12,159
you know to have a television show their

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01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:13,600
claim to fame as paranormal

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01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:15,760
investigators came after the fact you

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01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:17,840
know and

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01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:21,040
um i mean paranormal investigations uh

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01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:23,440
in a scientific approach to it you know

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01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:26,320
stems back to like even the 1800s before

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01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,000
we even you know had modern camera

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01:32:34,070 --> 01:32:32,880
and you know investigative equipment

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01:32:36,709 --> 01:32:34,080
like we do today

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01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:36,719
i mean people were putting you know baby

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01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:37,600
powder

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01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:40,000
on the floors and and watching you know

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01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:41,360
patterns of

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01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:43,760
paranormal footsteps that way you know

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01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:44,560
um

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01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:47,040
i it this has been going on for a long

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time i think the reason why

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01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:50,719
it's so popular now is because i believe

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people are

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01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:54,960
waking up to their spiritual abilities

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and

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you know they're becoming more

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01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:59,679
spiritually aware i think that's uh

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something that's happening throughout

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01:33:06,870 --> 01:33:02,800
the consciousness and

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01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:06,880
in everybody is it uh tell me

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01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:09,120
what it's like as you start an

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01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:10,480
investigation

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01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:13,199
is is there an adrenaline rush there is

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01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:19,910
um i you know to be honest

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01:33:23,669 --> 01:33:21,280
investigations could be

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01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:23,679
quite boring you know you can't you know

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01:33:26,470 --> 01:33:25,600
tell ghosts or spirits to play tricks

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01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:26,480
for you

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01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:29,199
um to be quite honest you know i started

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01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:30,880
off my career and

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01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:33,600
you know investigating homes um places

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01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:34,320
that

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01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:36,480
you know weren't like notoriously

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01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:38,080
incredibly haunted

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01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:39,920
um but sometimes you go to a location

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01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:41,120
three four five days

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01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:44,320
and you'll only get like two or three

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01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:47,040
massive pieces of you know evidence and

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01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:48,400
when i say massive

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01:33:55,030 --> 01:33:51,840
i'm talking like a class a evp

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01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:55,040
or you know an apparition or light

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01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:56,960
anomalies things like that

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01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:59,280
but usually people that investigate they

2372
01:34:01,350 --> 01:34:00,960
don't really see things with their naked

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01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:01,360
eye

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01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:03,040
and they use you know they have to

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01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:04,960
review their equipment to see

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01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:07,040
my adrenaline rush comes after the

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01:34:11,830 --> 01:34:09,120
investigation when i'm like

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01:34:13,830 --> 01:34:11,840
you know tunnel vision like i have

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01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:13,840
tunnel vision like six hours into

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01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:14,880
reviewing like

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01:34:19,910 --> 01:34:17,600
my you know camera footage and then all

2382
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:19,920
of a sudden you get an anomaly that's

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01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:21,679
you know so shocking and that's worth

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01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:24,239
showing to people um that's where the

2385
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:26,080
real rush is where you actually captured

2386
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:28,400
something on camera that you can like

2387
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:30,320
now corroborate with other investigators

2388
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:32,480
and even show other people and say here

2389
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,880
i've got proof of the paranormal

2390
01:34:37,910 --> 01:34:36,719
now because at the end of the day you

2391
01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:37,920
know like i could have a

2392
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:39,920
paranormal experience and yes that might

2393
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,080
be profound to me but

2394
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:43,920
it's not profound to others because they

2395
01:34:46,629 --> 01:34:45,280
weren't there so when you actually

2396
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:46,639
capture something

2397
01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:49,840
to show other people um that's what's

2398
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:50,960
exciting

2399
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:54,080
now there's there's two aspects uh

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01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:56,560
to this and i and i know that a lot of

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01:35:01,590 --> 01:34:58,080
this is done in complete

2402
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:01,600
darkness is uh is there

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01:35:04,870 --> 01:35:03,760
a situation where you have seen

2404
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:04,880
something

2405
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:07,199
with the naked eye you know you know a

2406
01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:10,000
ghost for example

2407
01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:13,360
yeah um yes yeah

2408
01:35:17,109 --> 01:35:16,239
in in dark rooms and in broad daylight

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01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:17,119
absolutely

2410
01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:20,560
um so i mean in dark rooms it's easier

2411
01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:21,360
to

2412
01:35:28,310 --> 01:35:25,040
eye and the reason why

2413
01:35:29,990 --> 01:35:28,320
paranormal investigators um use

2414
01:35:31,990 --> 01:35:30,000
the cloak of darkness is because there's

2415
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:32,000
no other light interferences there's no

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01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:33,280
false positive

2417
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:35,520
for light anomalies and things like that

2418
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:36,320
not to mention

2419
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:38,400
usually at night traffic dies down

2420
01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:40,400
people are asleep so there's less

2421
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:43,760
you know um residual noise

2422
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,800
sure yeah environmental melting

2423
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:48,480
sounds into like rooms and things like

2424
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,480
that so um

2425
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:53,199
but yes i have seen all sorts of

2426
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:54,560
phenomena i mean

2427
01:35:59,910 --> 01:35:57,520
my whole life's quest is to come into

2428
01:36:03,109 --> 01:35:59,920
contact with energies like this and

2429
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:03,119
you know seek and you shall find and

2430
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:04,320
that's been my motto

2431
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:07,679
in the paranormal i've often said susan

2432
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:08,159
that

2433
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:11,440
the holy grail uh for me you know in my

2434
01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:11,840
world

2435
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:15,600
is seeing a ufo during the day

2436
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:18,320
all right that's different right at

2437
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,960
night

2438
01:36:22,229 --> 01:36:20,639
uh we're gonna get back to that i'm not

2439
01:36:24,149 --> 01:36:22,239
gonna let that go but

2440
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:24,159
but at night if you see something in the

2441
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:25,360
sky

2442
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:27,920
you can't necessarily see the shape or

2443
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:29,040
what it may you know

2444
01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:31,760
the surface you know you don't know it's

2445
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:32,480
cool

2446
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:35,520
it's fun but during the day when you see

2447
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:36,159
something

2448
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:38,320
that's a whole nother situation and you

2449
01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:39,760
are able to

2450
01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:42,560
get so much more information as to what

2451
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:44,159
you are seeing

2452
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,320
is it the same thing with uh something

2453
01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:47,920
during the day when you're ghost hunting

2454
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:49,760
if you see something during the day

2455
01:37:01,830 --> 01:36:58,390
um i've i mean

2456
01:37:03,669 --> 01:37:01,840
i i would say the holy grail paranormal

2457
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:03,679
capture would be

2458
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:06,880
you know a full-bodied apparition

2459
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:08,800
you know manifesting in front of a

2460
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:10,560
camera and then

2461
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:13,679
possibly speaking at the same time a

2462
01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:14,560
holy grail

2463
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,239
like evp would be you know a spirit

2464
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:20,880
telling me the meaning of life you know

2465
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:21,840
and what

2466
01:37:26,669 --> 01:37:24,880
the other side is you know and we don't

2467
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:26,679
get that type of information

2468
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,960
unfortunately on paranormal

2469
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,239
investigations

2470
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:33,119
all we do is get aspects of a human

2471
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:34,400
consciousness that's

2472
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:36,480
that's you know creates haunts and is

2473
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:38,000
left behind in our

2474
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:40,400
you know in our realm in our you know in

2475
01:37:45,189 --> 01:37:41,840
our dimension

2476
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:45,199
um holy grail

2477
01:37:49,669 --> 01:37:47,600
oh yeah i think the alien contact would

2478
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:49,679
be a holy grail thing too because if you

2479
01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:50,320
had like

2480
01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:53,520
an extraterrestrial kind that you know

2481
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:55,679
supersedes us in intelligence and has

2482
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,280
possibly seen

2483
01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:59,760
the dawn of mankind as we know it and

2484
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:02,159
possibly other life forms of us

2485
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:04,080
like getting into ancient alien stuff

2486
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,159
you know like if some sort of

2487
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:08,400
intelligent extraterrestrial came down

2488
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,440
and said

2489
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:12,560
i created you from a dna strand from my

2490
01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:13,199
toenail

2491
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,199
you know or something like that you know

2492
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:17,440
like that's a holy grail moment for me

2493
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:18,320
because then that

2494
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:20,239
i would be able to be like wow okay that

2495
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:21,840
answers one major question

2496
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:24,800
and but every time you open a single box

2497
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:25,199
like

2498
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:29,119
then as an investigator

2499
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:31,199
you have so many more questions that you

2500
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:33,520
know tangent off of that answer

2501
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:36,159
so it's like a never-ending quest now

2502
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:38,639
and it's the same thing with evps

2503
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:41,280
and evps freak me out by the way and

2504
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:43,679
especially the ones with children and

2505
01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,480
and and and young children it it it

2506
01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:48,639
tears at you right and it's also

2507
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,239
you know pretty scary and frightening at

2508
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:52,000
the same time um

2509
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:56,000
but there is the version of voices that

2510
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:56,320
you

2511
01:39:03,189 --> 01:38:59,600
hear without any recorders

2512
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:03,199
right or or equipment disembodied voice

2513
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:06,000
right yeah those are disembodied voices

2514
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:06,639
uh

2515
01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:08,639
a supernatural voice that speaks to you

2516
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:10,400
that your ears can hear

2517
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:13,040
um electronic voice phenomena happens

2518
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:14,159
when

2519
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:16,239
it gets recorded on the device yet you

2520
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:17,520
don't hear it

2521
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:20,400
when you're investigating which do you

2522
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,430
i mean honestly it would save me hours

2523
01:39:30,629 --> 01:39:27,360
and hours of review if you could just

2524
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,310
that's an honest time i will take a

2525
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:34,480
disembodied voice over an evp

2526
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:38,000
any day now why is it that

2527
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:41,040
uh evps happen

2528
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:43,760
and i'm asking because is it that

2529
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:44,800
spirits

2530
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:48,159
are are uh electrical energy

2531
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:50,560
right is that what it is and they are

2532
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:52,000
able to

2533
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:55,440
quite by accident uh access

2534
01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:58,719
circuitry where they are captured

2535
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:01,520
and they are able to speak through that

2536
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:02,560
right is is

2537
01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:06,400
is you know i i hope you understand the

2538
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,239
question but

2539
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:10,880
i do i do and it's it's kind of

2540
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:12,159
long-winded and

2541
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,440
and complicated and even aspects to that

2542
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:17,440
question i can't really answer

2543
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:20,159
like to my to the full potential because

2544
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:20,639
i'm not

2545
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:24,159
a scientist or geologist but

2546
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:27,280
the way i understand it is like this

2547
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:30,880
so you know there are minerals on this

2548
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,760
planet

2549
01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:34,000
we even know certain types of quartz and

2550
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:35,520
crystals can

2551
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:39,119
hold you know certain vibrational memory

2552
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:41,679
and you know it depends on where you are

2553
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:43,119
geographically

2554
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:45,119
on this planet if like for instance i

2555
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:47,040
grew up in florida and there's tons and

2556
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:48,400
tons of limestone

2557
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:50,560
and within this limestone are tons of

2558
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,280
mineral and quartz compacted into it

2559
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:56,159
and it's believed that this type of

2560
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:57,040
limestone

2561
01:41:00,790 --> 01:41:00,400
um can hold energy and just like you

2562
01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,800
know

2563
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:03,199
but you think of a cassette tape player

2564
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:04,000
right so

2565
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,639
you have a and and this what i'm

2566
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:08,159
discussing right now is

2567
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:11,119
noted as the stone tape theory and the

2568
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:12,320
idea is that

2569
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:15,840
um in our you know i guess

2570
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:18,800
elemental realm that we have the

2571
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:20,719
capacity for all of these natural

2572
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:23,040
you know courts and things to be around

2573
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,560
us plus you know flowing

2574
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:27,119
water it's very elemental in nature that

2575
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:29,199
we're able to like capture

2576
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:31,760
you know moments in time whether that be

2577
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:34,239
you know a residual haunt of some kind

2578
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:35,440
you know maybe

2579
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,679
you know that leads you to that leads

2580
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:38,800
people to experience

2581
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,440
things like things happening at the same

2582
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:43,520
hour every night like oh they wake up

2583
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:44,560
and they see

2584
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,080
you know an apparition at the top of the

2585
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:48,239
stairs and it's always around like two

2586
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,960
in the morning

2587
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:50,800
that is considered a residual hunt and

2588
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:52,719
that might be something that's recorded

2589
01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:54,239
within the atmosphere

2590
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:57,199
and usually if you notice those types of

2591
01:42:02,709 --> 01:41:59,040
haunts happen within a certain

2592
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:02,719
geography geographical area that has a

2593
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,440
lot of mineral and quartz like

2594
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:07,360
composites within the earth

2595
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,600
um and what's interesting about that as

2596
01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:12,080
well i mean a lot of people you know we

2597
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,119
forget that as a man we we are

2598
01:42:19,109 --> 01:42:17,199
alchemists and we take things from the

2599
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:19,119
earth you know we will

2600
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:22,719
um harvest and mine things um and create

2601
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:26,560
things like cds and and dvds and

2602
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:29,679
you know cassette tapes um but

2603
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:32,080
really we're we're taking all of these

2604
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:34,000
things and harvesting them from our own

2605
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:36,080
planet our planet has the capability to

2606
01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:37,679
do these things as well

2607
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:39,920
we've just managed to harness this type

2608
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:41,280
of ability

2609
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,239
but all of the things that we use are

2610
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,080
technically from this planet and this

2611
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:48,400
planet has been around longer than man

2612
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:50,960
and has the ability to do all the things

2613
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:53,119
that we believe that we came up with

2614
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:56,320
on her own so well said

2615
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,239
and i've i've often thought that that

2616
01:43:01,669 --> 01:43:00,400
may be the case that things are just

2617
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:01,679
recorded

2618
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,159
captured right and and we are able to

2619
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:06,000
see it that doesn't explain everything

2620
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:08,960
but but some of the things that repeat

2621
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:09,520
are

2622
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:13,040
it's like rewinding a videotape

2623
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,400
right now and you could go down the

2624
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,159
rabbit hole you know a little bit and

2625
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:18,000
we're just talking about paranormal you

2626
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:19,840
know investigations but

2627
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:21,360
you know if you start getting into like

2628
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:23,199
some esoteric thoughts back there you

2629
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:25,040
know people believe in the akashic

2630
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:26,719
records that everything we do is

2631
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:27,600
recorded

2632
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,679
and so it's within our nature as you

2633
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:31,600
know human beings to be

2634
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:33,679
recorders of our lives and that's why we

2635
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:36,480
are constantly taping ourselves or

2636
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:39,199
noting things taking pictures you know

2637
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:39,760
it's

2638
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,159
it comes from you know a consciousness

2639
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,760
that stems from within ourselves

2640
01:43:47,830 --> 01:43:46,159
all the way to the akashic records but

2641
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:47,840
that's neither here nor there that's a

2642
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:49,440
whole other subject you know

2643
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:51,760
oh we discussed the akashic records

2644
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:53,440
nearly every day on this show

2645
01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:56,639
i i love the subject but but

2646
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:00,560
all of this when we look at a

2647
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:03,679
a ship like the the queen mary

2648
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,639
it's enclosed it's floating in water

2649
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:08,880
there's energy right there

2650
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:11,920
um there are

2651
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:14,960
dozens of people that that their last

2652
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:15,520
days

2653
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,040
on this planet were spent on that boat

2654
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:21,920
there there must be not only residual

2655
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:23,760
but maybe some lonely

2656
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:26,960
souls that that are just hanging out

2657
01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:32,229
i think a lot of the energies that might

2658
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:33,920
be within the queen mary and

2659
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:36,320
i i could only speculate because i have

2660
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,760
yet to investigate

2661
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,520
thoroughly on the queen mary i've done

2662
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,600
ghost tours i've spent the night there

2663
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:43,440
for two nights i've gone to events there

2664
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,960
but i've never had a paranormal

2665
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,000
experience

2666
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:48,320
yet but i've also every time i've gone

2667
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:49,920
to the queen mary it's just been

2668
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,719
completely packed with people i mean

2669
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,320
every time i go there it's for an event

2670
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,639
it's completely booked up there's like

2671
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:59,440
you know either dark harbors going on or

2672
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,080
you know

2673
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:02,320
there's less when i spent the night

2674
01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:04,239
there for two nights there was a

2675
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,639
huge scot festival happening so it was a

2676
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:08,880
bunch of bagpipes and dudes and kilts

2677
01:45:12,790 --> 01:45:09,360
and

2678
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,800
so

2679
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:14,639
you miss a lot of the activity on that

2680
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,480
ship so what i'm most excited about is

2681
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:17,760
the fact that

2682
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:19,600
and you're gonna see this too friday

2683
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:21,679
night which i'm excited for you

2684
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:24,960
um it's completely empty now there's

2685
01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:26,960
nobody there except for us at the dark

2686
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:28,159
zone and our guests

2687
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:31,040
and i'll be able to really vibe with the

2688
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,920
ship for once

2689
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:34,320
and and really get an understanding what

2690
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:36,320
type of phenomena happens there

2691
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:38,560
and based off of colleagues of mine and

2692
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:40,239
other teams like apra

2693
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,400
and you know haunted oc and stuff like

2694
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:44,800
that a lot of the people have reported

2695
01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:46,960
to me more visual types of phenomena

2696
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:48,080
like people are seeing

2697
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:51,040
apparitions on the queen mary and i'm

2698
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:52,239
very excited

2699
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,480
that we'll be having you know all the

2700
01:45:59,350 --> 01:45:56,000
iso cam setups

2701
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:59,360
um on the ship because um

2702
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:01,920
we're gonna have them rolling 24 7 in

2703
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:02,480
the most

2704
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:05,600
active locations on board the ship and

2705
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:09,040
um some of these people that have

2706
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:10,400
investigated here

2707
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,320
um like for instance apra they have

2708
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:14,719
captured one of them the best

2709
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:17,760
um piece of full-bodied app the best

2710
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:19,600
full-bodied apparition i've ever seen on

2711
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:20,560
camera

2712
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:23,520
was from apra and it was from the queen

2713
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:24,480
mary

2714
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:28,400
so um talk about holy grail sightings

2715
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:31,360
uh the best full-bodied apparition i've

2716
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:32,159
ever seen

2717
01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:34,159
uh came from the queen mary

2718
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:36,000
unfortunately i was at part of that

2719
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:37,520
investigation but it's from a

2720
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:39,600
esteemed team that i know love and work

2721
01:46:44,070 --> 01:46:40,800
with in the past

2722
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:44,080
so no doubt in my mind that they uh

2723
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:45,760
they contacted and connected with

2724
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,440
something there and that's what's making

2725
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:49,360
me most excited because i know members

2726
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:50,960
of apra will be there i'll get to

2727
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:52,719
investigate with them again

2728
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:54,719
and not only that other people that i

2729
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:56,400
love to investigate with that are super

2730
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:56,880
pro

2731
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,000
are gonna be on board as well um

2732
01:47:03,830 --> 01:47:02,080
people that you didn't realize were

2733
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,840
paranormal investigators like other

2734
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:05,360
guests uh like for instance chad

2735
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:06,080
lindbergh

2736
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:08,080
and kade hotter who you mentioned like

2737
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:10,480
kane hotter has his own paranormal team

2738
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:12,239
in l.a called the hollywood ghost

2739
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:14,000
hunters and

2740
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:16,159
uh chad lindberg and i have investigated

2741
01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:17,440
places before

2742
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:20,719
um like chapman university

2743
01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:23,920
um i believe we've we went to the queen

2744
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:25,440
mary once but it was never to

2745
01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:26,560
investigate

2746
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:29,679
uh but we did do the tour there and

2747
01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:31,600
i know he's a good investigator as well

2748
01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:33,199
and a lot of people don't realize like

2749
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,639
hey these people

2750
01:47:38,629 --> 01:47:36,560
you know moonlight as paranormal

2751
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:38,639
investigators even members from

2752
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:40,159
bands that we're going to feature like

2753
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:41,679
silver sun pickups

2754
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,920
who's uh one of the treats that we have

2755
01:47:48,709 --> 01:47:45,679
for reviewers

2756
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:48,719
members of their team are also members

2757
01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:49,280
of their

2758
01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:52,560
band are also part of paranormal teams

2759
01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:56,080
um and we get to like investigate

2760
01:47:59,270 --> 01:47:56,719
together

2761
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:59,280
um on a capacity they never really get

2762
01:48:02,149 --> 01:48:00,080
to show

2763
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:02,159
their fans or other audiences so i'm

2764
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:04,560
really excited about that as well

2765
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:07,760
one of uh one of the listeners to fade

2766
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,239
to black

2767
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:11,040
sent me an email today i can't post the

2768
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:12,719
picture everybody so don't

2769
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:15,600
ask me uh to post the picture i don't

2770
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:17,520
have the permission to do that but

2771
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:20,400
she sent me a picture of a hallway on

2772
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:21,600
the queen mary

2773
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:24,400
and i was gonna pull it up and describe

2774
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:25,360
it but

2775
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:29,119
um i can't find it right now well anyway

2776
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:31,440
she took this picture it's a long

2777
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:32,960
hallway

2778
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:36,880
and she says that she took the picture

2779
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:39,760
of the hallway and it was empty and then

2780
01:48:43,109 --> 01:48:40,560
she went

2781
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:43,119
back took one and went back and looked

2782
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:43,679
at her

2783
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,840
what's in the picture that she sent me

2784
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:51,119
is a lady

2785
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:54,239
walking down the hallway towards her

2786
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:56,000
um she's like dressed in black and i

2787
01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:57,760
think she has a purse

2788
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:59,840
um and she's walking towards her walking

2789
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:01,600
away from her

2790
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:04,080
is a little boy and he's like on the

2791
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:06,320
right and you see him from the back

2792
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:08,159
and he's walking towards the lady and

2793
01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:10,159
she's like they weren't there when i

2794
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:11,840
took the picture

2795
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:15,440
and wow and she goes now look that's all

2796
01:49:18,070 --> 01:49:16,159
i got

2797
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:18,080
is what she said it's just i'm just

2798
01:49:20,470 --> 01:49:19,760
telling you how it was they weren't

2799
01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:20,480
there

2800
01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:23,040
and i went and looked at my pictures and

2801
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:25,360
and there they were in this shot

2802
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,760
she doesn't know who they are it doesn't

2803
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:29,040
recognize them

2804
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:32,000
but there you go um is this something

2805
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:32,719
well

2806
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:35,199
from what you just said to me it sounds

2807
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:36,480
like and i had a call

2808
01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:37,840
the other day i just talked to aiden

2809
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:40,239
about this uh from

2810
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:42,080
one of the fader knots here on fade to

2811
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,280
black and she said in 1987

2812
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:47,760
uh she was taking a tour of the queen

2813
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:48,400
mary

2814
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,719
and she was down with a group of people

2815
01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:52,480
in the pool room

2816
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:55,040
and she saw a guy cleaning the pool a

2817
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:56,639
worker with one of those big

2818
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:59,440
pool brushes right but the pool was

2819
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:00,239
empty

2820
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:03,280
and he's like scrubbing it and then

2821
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:04,960
she turns around and then she turns

2822
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:07,360
around and looks again and he's gone

2823
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:08,880
so she thought oh that's kind of weird

2824
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:10,719
so she mentions it tomorrow this is what

2825
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:11,599
i'm saying

2826
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:14,080
right that's what everybody's reporting

2827
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:16,000
are these full-bodied apparitions on the

2828
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,880
queen mary

2829
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:19,440
you know like you're just adding to the

2830
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:20,080
stories like

2831
01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:22,159
everybody that i've spoken to about the

2832
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:23,360
queen mary

2833
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,280
has reports of full-bodied apparitions

2834
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:29,599
now what is it about um i've only got

2835
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:30,560
about a minute

2836
01:50:34,229 --> 01:50:32,080
uh before the break and then we'll come

2837
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:34,239
back and continue the conversation

2838
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:39,040
but we hear uh of these specific areas

2839
01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:40,480
on the ship right uh

2840
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:42,960
like room 340 for instance what's going

2841
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:50,070
well um i have yet to take the tour with

2842
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:50,800
aiden

2843
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:53,360
so i would i wish i could tell you more

2844
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:54,000
um

2845
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,639
so i hope did you talk with aiden about

2846
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:58,400
the history of the boat and what's going

2847
01:51:02,229 --> 01:50:59,119
on

2848
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:02,239
a little bit i want to keep most of it

2849
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:05,679
um uh how do i how do i say this

2850
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,760
i need to go into this a little bit more

2851
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:09,040
innocent

2852
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:12,320
right i i i don't want to have a ton

2853
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:15,599
of information i i don't that's me too

2854
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,639
that's me too i i could access all this

2855
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:20,880
information i and i could pick all the

2856
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:22,719
brains of everyone but then

2857
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:25,920
as an investigator um well so

2858
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,199
i did so i was a case manager for for

2859
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:30,960
ghost hunters international and my job

2860
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:32,880
was to understand the history of the

2861
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:34,239
locations

2862
01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:36,800
and i found that it would take me into a

2863
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:37,440
location

2864
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:40,560
as an investigator and make me really

2865
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:41,199
kind of

2866
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:44,159
biased to the phenomena and it would set

2867
01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:45,920
me into asking questions

2868
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:47,920
and hone in on things that sometimes

2869
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:50,320
were not the types of questions i should

2870
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:51,280
be asking

2871
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:53,119
because i had all these preconceived

2872
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:55,360
ideas from historical

2873
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:58,719
things that had happened um so i did the

2874
01:52:01,030 --> 01:52:00,480
same thing at the lizzie borden event

2875
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:01,040
that the

2876
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:04,800
months back

2877
01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:07,679
and i kind of went with our audience and

2878
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:08,239
learned

2879
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:10,800
with them and grew with them at the same

2880
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,280
time

2881
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,880
in the same pace of knowledge that they

2882
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:14,719
had um

2883
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:17,040
first of all and the lizzie borden was a

2884
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,480
little bit easier to follow than the

2885
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:20,320
queen mary because the queen mary has

2886
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:20,719
seen

2887
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:24,080
a lot in its day i mean it's a museum

2888
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:24,560
now

2889
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:30,080
but i mean i from what i understand it's

2890
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:31,599
you know been a luxury

2891
01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:35,040
you know ocean liner it's seen horrific

2892
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:38,400
war times during world war ii um

2893
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:41,920
there's been an insane amount of

2894
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:43,599
recorded deaths on the ship

2895
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:47,440
from you know her incarnation and

2896
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:50,080
you know if i start focusing in on like

2897
01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:51,760
the famous people for instance like the

2898
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:53,119
churchill room

2899
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:54,880
you know and i start asking you know

2900
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,880
winston churchill all these questions i

2901
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:58,719
might not get any activity because i'm

2902
01:53:01,430 --> 01:53:00,800
trying to contact a particular person

2903
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:01,440
because

2904
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,520
i heard a story about winston churchill

2905
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:05,119
and i'm trying to contact him when in

2906
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:06,000
reality

2907
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,239
there's probably hundreds of other

2908
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:10,239
energies or spirits on the ship

2909
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:12,480
that are getting you know no air time

2910
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:14,400
whatsoever and not getting the questions

2911
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:15,920
asked to them

2912
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:18,560
um and and the reason why i say this

2913
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:20,560
when i was at the lizzie borden event

2914
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:23,119
i'm constantly doing ebp sessions trying

2915
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:25,040
to reach out to like the borden family

2916
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:26,960
like talk to lizzie borden or to abby

2917
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:28,080
and andrew borden and

2918
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:30,000
the family members that died you know

2919
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:31,360
gruesomely there were

2920
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:34,320
part of the plot and murder but really

2921
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,960
the most

2922
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:36,800
active voices that came through on our

2923
01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:38,880
recorders were actually

2924
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:41,280
the homeowners from a later incarnations

2925
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:41,920
at the house

2926
01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:44,400
after the borden's lived there you know

2927
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:45,119
when the

2928
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:48,159
we were getting uh full names and even

2929
01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:48,960
like

2930
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,639
uh you know people that had lived in the

2931
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,080
neighborhood were coming through

2932
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:56,560
and speaking um you know through our

2933
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:57,679
ghost boxes

2934
01:54:01,510 --> 01:54:00,560
and you know and our devices and things

2935
01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:01,520
like that

2936
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,800
and none of them had to do with the

2937
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:04,480
boredoms and does that make that any

2938
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:05,520
less relevant

2939
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:07,440
because we're not speaking to the these

2940
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,040
particular people

2941
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:11,119
as an investigator absolutely not

2942
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:12,719
because i'm willing to speak to any

2943
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:14,719
energy that wants to come through

2944
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:18,159
and so i tried not to get too

2945
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:21,119
segued into storylines and details like

2946
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:22,239
that

2947
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:24,000
although i am a sucker for history i'm

2948
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:25,599
not gonna lie

2949
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:27,840
but i would like to know that if i go in

2950
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:29,440
kind of you know

2951
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,400
as a blank slate maybe the types of

2952
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,320
things that i will encounter will

2953
01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:36,080
corroborate with those stories at the

2954
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:37,280
end of the day

2955
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:38,719
you know and that makes it a more

2956
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:41,520
meaningful experience and capture for me

2957
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,199
knowing that i didn't fabricate

2958
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:45,280
something you know

2959
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:48,320
based off of something i heard you know

2960
01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:50,800
yep let's take our break right here this

2961
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:52,639
is fade to black our guest susan

2962
01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:54,159
slaughter we're talking about what we're

2963
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,159
gonna be doing next weekend

2964
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:58,320
and that is october 29th through

2965
01:55:02,830 --> 01:54:59,360
november 1st

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we are spending our weekend with the

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3047
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then i met carolyn ford over at

3048
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3049
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3050
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3051
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3052
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3053
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3054
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3055
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3056
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3057
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3058
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3059
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3060
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3061
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3062
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3063
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3064
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3069
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3070
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3087
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3088
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3089
01:59:56,390 --> 01:59:54,800
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3090
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:56,400
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3091
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:59,599
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3092
02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:00,560
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3093
02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:07,109
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3094
02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:09,440
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3095
02:00:28,629 --> 02:00:26,880
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3096
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:28,639
welcome back fade to black i'm real

3097
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:30,960
jimmy church

3098
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:32,800
what a great conversation tonight i do

3099
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:35,040
want to thank uh aiden and becca uh

3100
02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:35,760
earlier

3101
02:00:40,310 --> 02:00:38,880
what an amazing amazing conversation

3102
02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:40,320
really looking forward to what's

3103
02:00:45,270 --> 02:00:42,719
happening uh next weekend down on the

3104
02:00:47,350 --> 02:00:45,280
the queen mary and you can click there

3105
02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:47,360
are links below in the description

3106
02:00:51,750 --> 02:00:50,080
where you can go and and get registered

3107
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:51,760
uh for the event and there's also a

3108
02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:53,520
promo code there that you can use it's

3109
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:54,480
jimmy

3110
02:00:59,030 --> 02:00:56,800
and uh you'll get an additional discount

3111
02:01:02,229 --> 02:00:59,040
because you guys are fate or not so

3112
02:01:03,669 --> 02:01:02,239
go and get registered and susan not only

3113
02:01:05,750 --> 02:01:03,679
are you going to be there but yeah

3114
02:01:08,070 --> 02:01:05,760
you're you're you're an investigator and

3115
02:01:11,350 --> 02:01:08,080
you've spent a lot of time doing this

3116
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:11,360
i've watched uh so much i've

3117
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:14,639
binged way too many paranormal shows

3118
02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:18,000
and i envision help me understand uh

3119
02:01:22,790 --> 02:01:20,159
how this is going to go down because

3120
02:01:26,229 --> 02:01:22,800
you're part of dark darkzone and and

3121
02:01:28,149 --> 02:01:26,239
right so with the production is there a

3122
02:01:31,669 --> 02:01:28,159
camera that is going to be

3123
02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:31,679
following me through that the um

3124
02:01:36,229 --> 02:01:34,239
that everybody can participate in am i

3125
02:01:37,510 --> 02:01:36,239
going to be holding my own camera

3126
02:01:40,390 --> 02:01:37,520
you know how is that going to go down

3127
02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:40,400
what can people expect

3128
02:01:47,030 --> 02:01:44,080
well we do have so

3129
02:01:49,030 --> 02:01:47,040
the way i understand it so it could

3130
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:49,040
always change because as you know live

3131
02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:51,280
events you know you plan accordingly but

3132
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:53,920
then you end up having to shift gears

3133
02:01:57,589 --> 02:01:56,800
because uh when you're going live you

3134
02:02:00,470 --> 02:01:57,599
can't

3135
02:02:01,350 --> 02:02:00,480
create much but um from what i

3136
02:02:04,310 --> 02:02:01,360
understand

3137
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:04,320
so this is how it's gonna be we have the

3138
02:02:08,629 --> 02:02:06,320
entire ship to ourselves and then we

3139
02:02:11,990 --> 02:02:08,639
have within the most haunted rooms

3140
02:02:14,229 --> 02:02:12,000
which is b340 the pool room engine room

3141
02:02:15,430 --> 02:02:14,239
queen salon children's playroom and the

3142
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:15,440
churchill suite

3143
02:02:19,669 --> 02:02:18,159
we're going to have these iso cams and

3144
02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:19,679
it's going to be

3145
02:02:26,470 --> 02:02:26,159
a multi-view that every person watching

3146
02:02:29,589 --> 02:02:26,480
can

3147
02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:29,599
interact with it's a completely

3148
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:31,199
interactive event

3149
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:34,639
so when our investigators come on um

3150
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:36,560
we're gonna have them you know go

3151
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:38,560
through these haunted the most haunted

3152
02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:40,800
parts in the ship which will be covered

3153
02:02:45,589 --> 02:02:43,199
by our stationary iso cams

3154
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:45,599
but we will also i believe have a camera

3155
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:46,480
operator

3156
02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:48,960
following us around to get close-ups um

3157
02:02:51,669 --> 02:02:51,119
as far as gear you're more than welcome

3158
02:02:54,070 --> 02:02:51,679
to bring

3159
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:54,080
all of your own gear but we do have

3160
02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:55,679
other guests that are bringing

3161
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:58,639
you know specific gear like tony rothman

3162
02:03:00,790 --> 02:02:59,040
who

3163
02:03:02,390 --> 02:03:00,800
is a friend of mine is bringing some of

3164
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:02,400
his custom gear

3165
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:06,000
um and i know that members from apra are

3166
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:06,880
bringing

3167
02:03:12,310 --> 02:03:09,920
a never before used on

3168
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:12,320
camera or it's it's going to be

3169
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:14,000
introduced is a photon

3170
02:03:20,310 --> 02:03:18,000
camera and i don't even know how these

3171
02:03:21,910 --> 02:03:20,320
devices work but as an investigator

3172
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:21,920
you're constantly learning new

3173
02:03:26,709 --> 02:03:24,080
technology in the field

3174
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:26,719
and you'll get the opportunity to use

3175
02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:28,400
this technology as well

3176
02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:30,880
and we'll teach you know our viewers

3177
02:03:35,350 --> 02:03:32,400
about the technology

3178
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:35,360
and of course it's an integral part to

3179
02:03:38,229 --> 02:03:36,800
have our viewers there because they'll

3180
02:03:40,790 --> 02:03:38,239
be able to access

3181
02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:40,800
all of the camera feeds 24 7 throughout

3182
02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:42,239
the four day event

3183
02:03:49,030 --> 02:03:46,000
and a lot of times i found that

3184
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:49,040
when we would be out of a room things

3185
02:03:52,310 --> 02:03:50,639
would start happening in other rooms

3186
02:03:53,830 --> 02:03:52,320
that don't have investigators in

3187
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:53,840
and i think that's what makes it really

3188
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:55,760
helpful to have all these people watch

3189
02:04:00,950 --> 02:03:56,000
the

3190
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:00,960
know

3191
02:04:04,470 --> 02:04:03,040
be where we'll probably be escorted by

3192
02:04:06,470 --> 02:04:04,480
either becca or aiden

3193
02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:06,480
into one of these locations and they'll

3194
02:04:10,069 --> 02:04:07,760
be there during

3195
02:04:13,270 --> 02:04:10,079
an investigation in one of these rooms

3196
02:04:16,390 --> 02:04:13,280
or maybe several of these rooms

3197
02:04:19,270 --> 02:04:16,400
but i'm excited because i've

3198
02:04:20,629 --> 02:04:19,280
never been on a ship this massive

3199
02:04:23,350 --> 02:04:20,639
especially one that's been

3200
02:04:23,990 --> 02:04:23,360
completely abandoned since march so i

3201
02:04:26,709 --> 02:04:24,000
think there's a

3202
02:04:28,390 --> 02:04:26,719
lot of um energy that hasn't been

3203
02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:28,400
tampered with over the last couple

3204
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:29,920
months i think it's going to make for a

3205
02:04:33,669 --> 02:04:30,320
very

3206
02:04:36,950 --> 02:04:33,679
um you know active environment do you

3207
02:04:40,149 --> 02:04:36,960
do you carry stuff with you uh for

3208
02:04:44,149 --> 02:04:40,159
protection yeah you know crystals or

3209
02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:44,159
i do what do you do

3210
02:04:48,870 --> 02:04:46,880
i have a favorite uh chunky piece of

3211
02:04:52,149 --> 02:04:48,880
black tourmaline i carry with me

3212
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:52,159
and um it depends on what i'm doing

3213
02:04:55,990 --> 02:04:54,159
you know like for instance if i'm going

3214
02:04:57,669 --> 02:04:56,000
into a location i'm not very familiar

3215
02:04:59,430 --> 02:04:57,679
with and it usually has traumatic

3216
02:05:01,270 --> 02:04:59,440
energies like for instance

3217
02:05:03,030 --> 02:05:01,280
the lizzie borden house that had you

3218
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:03,040
know negative energy

3219
02:05:06,629 --> 02:05:04,800
attachments to it you know lots of

3220
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:06,639
trauma and murder

3221
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:09,199
i brought my black tourmaline with me

3222
02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:10,719
it's supposed to

3223
02:05:14,390 --> 02:05:12,880
mute negative energies and protect your

3224
02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:14,400
aura field

3225
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:17,360
and um i i keep it close to my heart

3226
02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:19,679
chakra because i find that

3227
02:05:24,550 --> 02:05:22,800
as an empathic person that my heart and

3228
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:24,560
crown chakras are the ones that get

3229
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:28,320
mostly tampered with on investigations

3230
02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:29,840
but there are also times that i really

3231
02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:31,360
want to connect with spirits and

3232
02:05:35,910 --> 02:05:32,880
therefore i'll

3233
02:05:40,149 --> 02:05:35,920
carry amplifying crystals with me um

3234
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:40,159
such as you know amethyst labradorite

3235
02:05:43,910 --> 02:05:42,320
smoky quartz and things like that even

3236
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:43,920
rainbow quartz are really great for

3237
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:46,000
establishing communication

3238
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:49,360
sometimes i do a mix of the two um where

3239
02:05:53,990 --> 02:05:50,719
i would bring

3240
02:05:56,390 --> 02:05:54,000
you know my smoky quartz or a rainbow

3241
02:05:57,030 --> 02:05:56,400
quartz with my black tourmaline and that

3242
02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:57,040
way

3243
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:59,599
it will help me you know establish

3244
02:06:03,830 --> 02:06:01,119
communication

3245
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,840
with energies kind of be more of a

3246
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:05,520
beacon but at the same time my black

3247
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:07,119
tourmaline will keep the negative

3248
02:06:13,030 --> 02:06:08,880
energies at bay from you know

3249
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:13,040
connecting with my energetic field

3250
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:16,079
and then after every investigation i

3251
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:19,360
have a post ritual that i do

3252
02:06:26,069 --> 02:06:22,800
um it's more like a spa ritual but it's

3253
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:26,079
i sew consults afterwards to cleanse

3254
02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:28,000
myself of any attachments that have come

3255
02:06:31,109 --> 02:06:28,800
home with me

3256
02:06:32,229 --> 02:06:31,119
that's a good idea that's a good idea

3257
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:32,239
yeah

3258
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:35,679
what about your mindset

3259
02:06:42,629 --> 02:06:38,880
you know how do how do you approach that

3260
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:42,639
yes it's so important to have uh the

3261
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:44,880
proper mindset on an investigation

3262
02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:46,719
because that would dictate the type of

3263
02:06:52,310 --> 02:06:49,199
interactions you'll get with energies

3264
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:52,320
because energy is fluid it can

3265
02:06:58,629 --> 02:06:55,840
be influenced by your own energy

3266
02:07:00,629 --> 02:06:58,639
so a lot of the times when you see

3267
02:07:04,629 --> 02:07:00,639
investigators going in

3268
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:04,639
and getting attacked scratched

3269
02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:06,719
threatening remarks a lot of the time

3270
02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:08,000
it's the

3271
02:07:11,669 --> 02:07:10,159
energy that the person brings to the

3272
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:11,679
location

3273
02:07:19,109 --> 02:07:15,280
so if you have you know anxiety

3274
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:19,119
depression if you suffer from mental

3275
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:20,960
illness

3276
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:24,400
if you are suffering from

3277
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:27,280
addiction or substance abuse you're

3278
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:29,440
going to have more of a negative aspect

3279
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:30,079
haunt

3280
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:33,040
that occurs around you at locations so i

3281
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:35,280
think it's very important for you

3282
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:38,639
to go into a location with you know a

3283
02:07:42,149 --> 02:07:39,119
clear

3284
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:42,159
energetic field um so i think it's very

3285
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:43,840
important that

3286
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:47,199
you you know like i said you leave your

3287
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:50,560
emotional baggage at the door

3288
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:53,280
and you come in with a clear mind yeah

3289
02:07:58,950 --> 02:07:54,400
exactly

3290
02:08:05,669 --> 02:08:01,990
okay it's like this for me when

3291
02:08:08,709 --> 02:08:05,679
i am imagining

3292
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:08,719
what a spirit may be or where

3293
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:12,079
they are they may not

3294
02:08:18,950 --> 02:08:15,760
necessarily understand where they are

3295
02:08:22,229 --> 02:08:18,960
or what is even going on right

3296
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:22,239
and you need to uh

3297
02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:25,119
not freak them out you need to be

3298
02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:26,400
balanced

3299
02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:30,800
be dealing something with something that

3300
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:31,119
is

3301
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:36,480
confused about you being there

3302
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:44,390
i mean i think we're both

3303
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:47,280
the same you know i it's we still don't

3304
02:08:50,629 --> 02:08:48,320
know 100

3305
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:50,639
what ghosts are so there's probably

3306
02:08:54,310 --> 02:08:51,760
still

3307
02:08:55,830 --> 02:08:54,320
a little bit of you know confusion on

3308
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:55,840
you know

3309
02:08:59,189 --> 02:08:58,079
a living person's side as much as you

3310
02:09:02,229 --> 02:08:59,199
know the dead

3311
02:09:04,229 --> 02:09:02,239
but um i think that it's very wise if

3312
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:04,239
there is an aspect of consciousness

3313
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:05,360
attached to

3314
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:08,560
that energy where it is intelligent

3315
02:09:12,229 --> 02:09:11,119
for instance and it does see you and can

3316
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:12,239
interact with you

3317
02:09:16,870 --> 02:09:15,280
to some certain effect um

3318
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:16,880
if you're going in with these crazy

3319
02:09:20,629 --> 02:09:18,480
bright lights on your camera

3320
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:20,639
like ir illumination you're coming in

3321
02:09:24,229 --> 02:09:22,320
with all these gadgets

3322
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:24,239
they don't know what those things are

3323
02:09:27,830 --> 02:09:26,000
they don't know if that's a weapon

3324
02:09:30,229 --> 02:09:27,840
at that point you're looking like an you

3325
02:09:31,669 --> 02:09:30,239
know an alien astronaut in another

3326
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:31,679
planet you know

3327
02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:34,480
like how can you tell that you're safe

3328
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:36,320
in that environment not to mention a lot

3329
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:36,880
of the

3330
02:09:42,069 --> 02:09:39,920
types of equipment that people use and i

3331
02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:42,079
see a lot of investigators

3332
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:44,079
going out there with like super loaded

3333
02:09:47,589 --> 02:09:46,320
cameras with like freaking floodlights

3334
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:47,599
on their cameras and

3335
02:09:51,350 --> 02:09:49,280
all these battery packs and all this

3336
02:09:52,870 --> 02:09:51,360
gear turned on that all has an

3337
02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:52,880
energetic output that could be

3338
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:55,199
incredibly harsh to the energetic

3339
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:56,239
environment

3340
02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:59,280
spirits you're trying to connect to

3341
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:01,840
so when you bring all of that type of

3342
02:10:05,830 --> 02:10:03,199
stuff into and

3343
02:10:07,910 --> 02:10:05,840
you know the atmosphere you could be

3344
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:07,920
potentially pushing away

3345
02:10:12,950 --> 02:10:09,679
the energies you're trying to connect

3346
02:10:15,589 --> 02:10:12,960
with just by having all that gear there

3347
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:15,599
i also believe you know thoughts are you

3348
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:16,800
know powerful

3349
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:19,520
and intention manifests and so if a

3350
02:10:24,149 --> 02:10:21,920
person goes into a location already

3351
02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:24,159
thinking antagonistic thoughts about an

3352
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:25,280
energy

3353
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:28,800
you know maybe um the spirit of

3354
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:31,840
some you know famed or infamous serial

3355
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,400
killer

3356
02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,320
is in the location if you go in there

3357
02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:36,480
antagonizing this energy

3358
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:38,560
already having these you know negative

3359
02:10:41,910 --> 02:10:39,840
thoughts about them

3360
02:10:43,109 --> 02:10:41,920
they might not want to connect with you

3361
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:43,119
at all because

3362
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:45,360
you're already coming in as an enemy as

3363
02:10:48,310 --> 02:10:46,719
an interrogator

3364
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:48,320
so you're not the most approachable

3365
02:10:51,830 --> 02:10:49,920
energy in that room

3366
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:51,840
so i always try to come in to an

3367
02:10:56,229 --> 02:10:53,040
investigation

3368
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:56,239
as a counselor as a friend as someone

3369
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:56,960
that's

3370
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:59,920
there in the presence i never tried to

3371
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:00,960
bring up you know

3372
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:03,520
the memories of their death i always try

3373
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:04,719
to bring up

3374
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,199
you know happy memories and things like

3375
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:08,480
that i like to play

3376
02:11:12,470 --> 02:11:11,040
you know music from the era and one of

3377
02:11:14,470 --> 02:11:12,480
the cool things i want to point out

3378
02:11:15,910 --> 02:11:14,480
about the event that we're doing is that

3379
02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:15,920
we're going to be doing some

3380
02:11:19,910 --> 02:11:18,320
forms of experiment especially in the

3381
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:19,920
queen salon

3382
02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:21,599
where we're going to have you know

3383
02:11:25,350 --> 02:11:23,840
people dressed in period costume dancing

3384
02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:25,360
to period music

3385
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:27,520
to see if we can get any stimulation

3386
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:29,360
within that environment

3387
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:32,320
so i'm very excited about that you know

3388
02:11:34,229 --> 02:11:33,840
experiment because that's the type of

3389
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:34,239
stuff

3390
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:37,119
i like to do as an investigator and i

3391
02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,079
never get to do

3392
02:11:41,109 --> 02:11:40,400
this you know on the scale that we're

3393
02:11:43,669 --> 02:11:41,119
doing it

3394
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:43,679
this halloween you know to actually have

3395
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:44,320
a group

3396
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:47,040
of ballroom dancers come in dressed to

3397
02:11:50,870 --> 02:11:47,840
the nines

3398
02:11:54,390 --> 02:11:50,880
in you know period-specific wear

3399
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:54,400
listening to period-specific music and

3400
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:57,440
you know we're trying to like resurrect

3401
02:12:01,109 --> 02:12:00,159
the happy pulse of that ship to see you

3402
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:01,119
know

3403
02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:03,360
if you ca you catch more flies with

3404
02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:04,880
honey than you do with vinegar at the

3405
02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:06,000
end of the day

3406
02:12:09,669 --> 02:12:07,840
and and i think that if you start to

3407
02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:09,679
stimulate a positive

3408
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:13,599
interaction you'll get more you know

3409
02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:16,719
energetic input from the other side

3410
02:12:23,270 --> 02:12:20,159
with um when it comes to

3411
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:23,280
uh the paranormal television shows that

3412
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:23,920
are out there

3413
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:27,040
as opposed to what is happening with the

3414
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:29,040
queen mary the queen mary is live

3415
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:30,639
it's interactive you can click on

3416
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:32,239
cameras and

3417
02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:35,520
and you are part of this investigation

3418
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:37,280
for four days right and you are in

3419
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:38,320
control

3420
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:41,599
but with paranormal programming

3421
02:12:47,030 --> 02:12:45,040
that is taped and edited and there are

3422
02:12:48,790 --> 02:12:47,040
enough skeptics out there that are going

3423
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:48,800
to step back and go oh come on this is

3424
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:49,119
just

3425
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:52,880
stuff can't be

3426
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:55,520
real how do you overcome as an

3427
02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:56,880
investigator

3428
02:13:03,030 --> 02:12:59,920
uh you know that type of skepticism

3429
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:03,040
when uh enough of the

3430
02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:06,880
enough of the fodder is out there

3431
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:10,800
for people to to call bs

3432
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:13,599
well at the end of the day i'm very

3433
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:14,159
lucky

3434
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:16,800
that my endeavors get televised but i'm

3435
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:19,679
not here to prove anything to anyone

3436
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:22,639
i happily encourage you to think

3437
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:24,000
individually if

3438
02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:26,560
that makes you a skeptic so be it if

3439
02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:27,520
you're a believer

3440
02:13:31,910 --> 02:13:31,440
that's awesome but this is my spiritual

3441
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:31,920
path

3442
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:33,840
and i'm not trying to prove anything to

3443
02:13:37,830 --> 02:13:36,159
anybody else but myself

3444
02:13:41,109 --> 02:13:37,840
you know i'm trying to understand the

3445
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:41,119
energies that i come into contact with

3446
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:44,320
i'm trying to understand you know what

3447
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,040
i need to do to transcend i have my own

3448
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,280
personal beliefs and i believe that

3449
02:13:52,870 --> 02:13:51,360
and investigating the paranormal will

3450
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:52,880
lead me to

3451
02:13:57,109 --> 02:13:55,920
a higher path and as long as i continue

3452
02:13:58,870 --> 02:13:57,119
on that higher path

3453
02:14:00,950 --> 02:13:58,880
and it's you know spiritually fulfilling

3454
02:14:01,990 --> 02:14:00,960
to me i could care less whether people

3455
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:02,000
believe me or not

3456
02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:04,320
straight up that's my answer but at the

3457
02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:05,760
end of the day

3458
02:14:10,870 --> 02:14:08,880
you know um i i do like to share my

3459
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:10,880
experiences with people and that's why i

3460
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:13,040
investigate i investigate so that way if

3461
02:14:17,189 --> 02:14:14,960
i capture an evp

3462
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:17,199
or you know an apparition or light

3463
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:18,560
anomaly

3464
02:14:22,069 --> 02:14:20,400
i like to share that with people because

3465
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:22,079
i know i'm not alone in my

3466
02:14:25,910 --> 02:14:24,400
experiences you know i know there's

3467
02:14:27,830 --> 02:14:25,920
other people out there that have

3468
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:27,840
experienced things just like i have

3469
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:31,199
people that you know um you know maybe

3470
02:14:35,750 --> 02:14:33,760
have certain abilities or people that

3471
02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:35,760
have had loved ones come and visit them

3472
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:37,599
or people that have had spiritual

3473
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,800
awakenings and those

3474
02:14:43,270 --> 02:14:41,199
eventually those are the people i speak

3475
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:43,280
to those are the people that i care to

3476
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:44,880
have conversations with

3477
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:46,560
and you know i like to listen to a

3478
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:49,040
skeptic too you know i like to keep the

3479
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:52,320
the field even you know and at the end

3480
02:14:56,149 --> 02:14:54,079
of the day it also kind of keeps

3481
02:14:57,830 --> 02:14:56,159
me even too you know when i listen to

3482
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:57,840
skeptics and what they're skeptical

3483
02:15:01,910 --> 02:14:58,719
about

3484
02:15:02,310 --> 02:15:01,920
that you know encourages me to you know

3485
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:02,320
find

3486
02:15:05,589 --> 02:15:05,199
more you know tactics and authentic ways

3487
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:05,599
to

3488
02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:09,199
about

3489
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:11,360
you know the queen mary having all these

3490
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:13,040
iso cams that people could see

3491
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,280
24 7 is you can tell we're not pulling

3492
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:17,360
strings and doing smoke and mirrors

3493
02:15:21,430 --> 02:15:19,360
you know the dark zone was founded as a

3494
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:21,440
genuine investigative team all of the

3495
02:15:26,390 --> 02:15:23,679
members that represent the dark zone

3496
02:15:27,350 --> 02:15:26,400
are genuine investigators that do this

3497
02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:27,360
for spiritual

3498
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:30,800
enlightenment and their own paths and um

3499
02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:33,520
we cherry-picked these people i mean not

3500
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:33,840
we

3501
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:36,320
i was amongst the cherry that was picked

3502
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:37,119
but

3503
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:40,880
you know uh jay blumkey who is kind of

3504
02:15:47,030 --> 02:15:43,920
you know the the founding father

3505
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:47,040
of the dark zone you know he has worked

3506
02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:48,960
with all of us he's a producer that's

3507
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:49,599
worked on

3508
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,520
ghost mine ghost hunters you know

3509
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:55,440
monsters among us i believe and some

3510
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:57,760
other you know paranormal content

3511
02:16:01,189 --> 02:16:00,639
and he's worked with everybody and i kid

3512
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:01,199
you not

3513
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:03,599
everybody in the field and he picked his

3514
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:04,960
favorites most generous

3515
02:16:08,229 --> 02:16:07,440
genuine people to be part of the dark

3516
02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:08,239
zone

3517
02:16:15,189 --> 02:16:11,520
and so um we definitely

3518
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,199
want to encourage you know people to

3519
02:16:18,390 --> 02:16:17,920
be genuine in this field and it's hard

3520
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:18,400
now

3521
02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:21,920
with the the the climate that we see on

3522
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,079
you know television these days that

3523
02:16:29,189 --> 02:16:26,960
paranormal content on television is more

3524
02:16:30,149 --> 02:16:29,199
for entertainment and less for spiritual

3525
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:30,159
value

3526
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,000
but the dark zone keeps true to the

3527
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:34,319
spiritual value and also is aware that

3528
02:16:37,429 --> 02:16:36,000
it could be fun and entertaining and

3529
02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:37,439
that's what we're doing

3530
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:39,120
halloween events like this you know

3531
02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:40,719
that's why we're bringing

3532
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:43,679
bands on boards and celebrities and

3533
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,000
historians and all the investigators

3534
02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:49,200
you know and love is because we do enjoy

3535
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:49,679
what we

3536
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:51,840
do and we want to like treat our viewers

3537
02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:53,760
to like a hell of a good time especially

3538
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:54,880
on halloween

3539
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:57,359
and we wanted to blow every other thing

3540
02:17:00,790 --> 02:16:59,280
to do on halloween out of the water this

3541
02:17:01,509 --> 02:17:00,800
is going to be the biggest halloween

3542
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:01,519
event

3543
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,240
that you can interact with you know from

3544
02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:05,920
the safety of your own home i mean these

3545
02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:09,040
are strange times you know

3546
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:11,280
kids are you know discouraged now from

3547
02:17:13,669 --> 02:17:12,639
going out on halloween no

3548
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:13,679
trick-or-treating

3549
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:16,800
no large gatherings no parties but you

3550
02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:17,599
know

3551
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:19,200
we're gonna we're gonna throw a party

3552
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:21,120
for you and it's gonna be at your house

3553
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:22,080
and we're gonna have

3554
02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:25,519
live investigations and i i

3555
02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:27,679
i guarantee something strange is gonna

3556
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:30,080
happen on board the queen mary i

3557
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:31,840
personally feel like strange things

3558
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:34,080
follow me around specifically

3559
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:36,880
um but every other event we've ever done

3560
02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:37,840
and we've never

3561
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:40,960
we've never had to to like stretch

3562
02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:42,960
anything out of proportion to make

3563
02:17:46,629 --> 02:17:45,760
viewers interested in what we do because

3564
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:46,639
the viewers

3565
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:48,399
is what makes this interesting because

3566
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:50,240
it's a completely interactive event

3567
02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:52,000
they're the ones that bring the

3568
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,760
they're the ones that find the evidence

3569
02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:55,760
and bring it to us at the end of the day

3570
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:57,359
everything that we ever caught at the

3571
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,960
conjuring house and at the

3572
02:18:02,950 --> 02:18:00,479
lizzie borden house came from the

3573
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:02,960
viewers who were watching our iso cams

3574
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:06,000
everything was captured on our

3575
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:09,359
you know dvr feeds and we've updated

3576
02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:11,519
the way we handle the dvr feed this

3577
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,519
round that you can watch the multi-view

3578
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:15,200
you can click on cameras

3579
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:18,719
and after the event you know closes for

3580
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:19,519
the night

3581
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:22,319
you'll still be able to watch all of the

3582
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:24,719
the cameras live 24 7

3583
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:28,080
which is pretty awesome and like i said

3584
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:30,240
they bring the evidence to us at the end

3585
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:31,359
of the day

3586
02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:33,760
yeah when jay called me and said hey we

3587
02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:36,080
want you to be a part of this man

3588
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:38,719
i was like i'm so excited you have no

3589
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:39,280
i'd

3590
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:42,800
and he said uh jay i know you're

3591
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:43,439
listening

3592
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:44,719
and i don't want to throw you under the

3593
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:46,479
bus too much but uh

3594
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:49,120
but he said have you ever done uh a

3595
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:51,280
ghost hunt before and i said well

3596
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:54,399
no perfect

3597
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:57,040
that's that's you know and and and

3598
02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:57,519
that's

3599
02:19:01,509 --> 02:19:00,559
jay's attitude and and and the whole

3600
02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:01,519
team there

3601
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:03,760
and kathleen and everybody i i've just

3602
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:05,280
been so impressed

3603
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:08,639
on uh the enthusiasm about what they are

3604
02:19:15,190 --> 02:19:11,359
trying to accomplish here and i agree

3605
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:15,200
uh this is a big event no no this is a

3606
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:15,519
big

3607
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:20,719
completely new thing

3608
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:23,200
a new bag for a new bag of treats that's

3609
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:24,800
for sure especially in the paranormal

3610
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:26,000
field

3611
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:28,240
now i wanted to ask you before we head

3612
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:29,040
to the break oh

3613
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:31,760
also i'm going to let everybody know uh

3614
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:32,800
susan's going to

3615
02:19:36,070 --> 02:19:34,160
stay with us and we're going to take

3616
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:36,080
phone calls after the break

3617
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:38,800
so uh get ready for that i'll open up

3618
02:19:43,309 --> 02:19:40,000
the phone lines now

3619
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:43,319
and and you can start calling in

3620
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:44,719
747-228-2051

3621
02:19:49,429 --> 02:19:47,679
um what if uh you were talking about

3622
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:49,439
technology earlier and too much

3623
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:50,640
technology

3624
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:52,240
you know i'm picturing ghostbusters

3625
02:19:56,469 --> 02:19:53,760
right too much

3626
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:56,479
technology may not be though necessarily

3627
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:57,760
the way to go

3628
02:20:04,309 --> 02:20:00,960
if you could pick just one piece of gear

3629
02:20:08,469 --> 02:20:04,319
what would it be oh man

3630
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:08,479
uh i lo i mean a dvr system

3631
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:10,160
but that's like that's not really

3632
02:20:14,469 --> 02:20:11,840
technically one piece of gear because

3633
02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:14,479
that's like a monitor the dvr system and

3634
02:20:19,750 --> 02:20:17,200
usually like eight cameras

3635
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,760
but the idea if you have a dvr system

3636
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:21,200
with like eight cameras

3637
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:23,359
i mean and you have them rolling the

3638
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:25,120
whole time you just have

3639
02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:27,120
access you know and different focal

3640
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:28,800
points throughout a building

3641
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:32,080
but okay so if i really had to say my

3642
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:34,080
favorite piece of equipment is a full

3643
02:20:38,309 --> 02:20:36,160
spectrum camera with audio

3644
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:38,319
because it's kind of you know an

3645
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:39,920
all-inclusive tool if

3646
02:20:43,190 --> 02:20:42,000
you could you could still capture evps

3647
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:43,200
on on a

3648
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:45,040
you know full spectrum camera if it has

3649
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:46,560
audio and

3650
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:48,479
you could see into spectrums of light

3651
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:50,319
that the human eye can't convey so it

3652
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:52,640
goes well into like the uv

3653
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:54,640
the ultraviolet spectrum and even the

3654
02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:56,960
edge the infrared spectrums

3655
02:21:02,070 --> 02:20:59,600
um we're at just regular infrared

3656
02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:02,080
cameras only can see things night vision

3657
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:03,680
into the infrared spectrum so you're

3658
02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:05,840
missing out on a lot of potential

3659
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:08,240
light anomalies that way so full

3660
02:21:11,990 --> 02:21:08,880
spectrum

3661
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:12,000
cameras all day with audio there

3662
02:21:15,830 --> 02:21:14,080
you go i'm going to be bringing some

3663
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:15,840
night vision goggles

3664
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:18,399
and a task yeah i'm going to bring this

3665
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:20,080
about your night vision goggles

3666
02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:22,000
yes and i'm impressed yes i'm going to

3667
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:23,439
bring it i felt like i was being

3668
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:25,120
specifically targeted

3669
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,359
by all of your commercials during the

3670
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:28,960
break i was like

3671
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:32,160
coffee yes night vision goggles yes

3672
02:21:38,389 --> 02:21:35,520
charged crystal skulls yes sign me

3673
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,399
up i was like he obviously knows who's

3674
02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:40,319
who his guest is and or i guess his

3675
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:41,280
audience so

3676
02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:43,760
well you know and and and i believe in

3677
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,720
all of that

3678
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:47,280
you know and and i surround myself with

3679
02:21:52,070 --> 02:21:49,439
it so with that let's take a break

3680
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:52,080
and we'll come back to phone calls and

3681
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:54,160
as we do that i guess tonight susan

3682
02:21:58,830 --> 02:21:55,120
slaughter

3683
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:58,840
and the call-in number of course is

3684
02:22:01,990 --> 02:22:00,080
747-228-2051

3685
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:02,000
and before the break i want to remind

3686
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:03,120
everybody that you

3687
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:05,680
are surfing the net you are on the net

3688
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right now

3689
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here with me what you want to do is

3690
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what i do get virtual shield

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all running virtual shield that's what

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you want to do you want to browse the

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anonymously and securely i do

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3706
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i'll be right back after this short

3707
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break with susan slaughter

3708
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3792
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3793
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what a great show tonight we are

3794
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discussing what's going

3795
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we have got multiple cameras set up all

3809
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over the queen mary so that's that's the

3810
02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:55,120
cool part and i am going to be there

3811
02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:58,880
uh friday uh october 30th for my

3812
02:28:02,950 --> 02:28:01,120
own ghost hunt and i know all of you

3813
02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:02,960
have been waiting for this to actually

3814
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:04,000
go down

3815
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:07,200
and it's one thing and susan

3816
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:10,000
this is no joke it's one thing if i went

3817
02:28:15,349 --> 02:28:12,080
out on a ghost hunt with the paranormal

3818
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:15,359
team over the weekend and i come back

3819
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:17,359
and tell everybody about it

3820
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:20,640
okay that's one thing and it's a whole

3821
02:28:23,990 --> 02:28:21,359
other thing

3822
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:24,000
when it's live on camera isn't it that's

3823
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:24,640
that's

3824
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,510
i'm excited to have you on board and i'm

3825
02:28:35,349 --> 02:28:33,040
excited to see

3826
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:35,359
how you hold your marbles during this

3827
02:28:38,950 --> 02:28:36,880
whole investigation

3828
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:38,960
because i'm surprised for someone that's

3829
02:28:42,389 --> 02:28:40,960
into so much esoteric subjects and

3830
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:42,399
supernatural that you have

3831
02:28:46,070 --> 02:28:45,600
yet to go on an investigation well it's

3832
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:46,080
kind of

3833
02:28:49,910 --> 02:28:48,000
because i'm sure you've spoken with so

3834
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:49,920
many paranormal investigators you know a

3835
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:50,800
lot of people

3836
02:28:56,389 --> 02:28:54,240
yeah i i do and it's got to be the uh

3837
02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:56,399
the right thing at the right time you

3838
02:29:01,349 --> 02:28:58,240
know with the right team

3839
02:29:04,469 --> 02:29:01,359
um i'm i'm all about about

3840
02:29:05,190 --> 02:29:04,479
jimmy god well you know and and this is

3841
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:05,200
the thing

3842
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:08,640
um i want something to happen

3843
02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:12,160
i want i i want to scream right

3844
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,960
i want all i want the i want the full

3845
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:16,080
experience

3846
02:29:23,190 --> 02:29:19,520
and um i uh oh by the way the phone

3847
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:23,200
lines are open 747-2282

3848
02:29:30,710 --> 02:29:27,439
um i i wanted to ask you this

3849
02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:30,720
have you ever been touched right

3850
02:29:38,710 --> 02:29:33,840
ever have like maybe your hair pulled or

3851
02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:38,720
have you ever had a you know contact

3852
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:42,800
yeah i have um i've had my

3853
02:29:49,030 --> 02:29:45,760
feet or ankles pulled while i've been

3854
02:29:52,070 --> 02:29:49,040
asleep in a bed once

3855
02:29:53,349 --> 02:29:52,080
i've had the bottom half of my leg

3856
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:53,359
grabbed very

3857
02:29:58,790 --> 02:29:57,120
very very firmly on an investigation

3858
02:30:00,790 --> 02:29:58,800
i've never been scratched i've never

3859
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:00,800
been bitten i've never been pushed i've

3860
02:30:06,309 --> 02:30:03,120
never

3861
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:06,319
had any like negative

3862
02:30:09,910 --> 02:30:07,600
interaction but you know when you're

3863
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:09,920
communicating with energies and you're

3864
02:30:13,990 --> 02:30:12,720
asking for a sign if the only way they

3865
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:14,000
could communicate with you

3866
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:15,760
is physically to let you know that

3867
02:30:18,870 --> 02:30:17,040
they're there then

3868
02:30:21,190 --> 02:30:18,880
you know i'm asking for it i'm looking

3869
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:21,200
for that type of you know

3870
02:30:24,950 --> 02:30:23,439
acknowledgement from the other side so

3871
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:24,960
i've never had anything

3872
02:30:29,910 --> 02:30:27,840
you know aggressively touch me but yes

3873
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:29,920
i've definitely felt things

3874
02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:33,840
from the other side many mostly things

3875
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:36,960
yeah many years ago it was probably this

3876
02:30:40,950 --> 02:30:39,280
is 2020. so let's let i'm going to say

3877
02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:40,960
15 years ago

3878
02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:44,319
there was a marathon

3879
02:30:51,190 --> 02:30:47,439
going on with one of the ghost

3880
02:30:53,349 --> 02:30:51,200
uh uh paranormal investigation shows

3881
02:30:54,550 --> 02:30:53,359
i don't remember which one but i fall

3882
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:54,560
asleep to it

3883
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:57,680
right and it's on for like 24 hours and

3884
02:31:02,710 --> 02:30:58,960
i fall asleep to it

3885
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:02,720
and apparently somebody got

3886
02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:06,240
scratched i didn't see it right but

3887
02:31:11,270 --> 02:31:09,040
it i was kind of hearing it in my dreams

3888
02:31:14,870 --> 02:31:11,280
but this is what ended up happening

3889
02:31:19,190 --> 02:31:14,880
and it had a lot to do with my fear of

3890
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:19,200
uh ghost investigations in my dream

3891
02:31:26,389 --> 02:31:22,880
i was chased and in my dream

3892
02:31:29,670 --> 02:31:26,399
i climbed up into a tree

3893
02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:29,680
to get to hide from whatever was

3894
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:33,520
chasing me and it was all caused

3895
02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:36,560
from this this paranormal investigation

3896
02:31:40,710 --> 02:31:37,439
show

3897
02:31:41,990 --> 02:31:40,720
and i went through a very bad nightmare

3898
02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:42,000
type of experience

3899
02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:44,560
with this and i remember uh waking up

3900
02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:45,760
from that gun you know what

3901
02:31:50,870 --> 02:31:48,960
i'm i'm i'm never going to do that

3902
02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:50,880
i i don't i don't want to get scratched

3903
02:31:55,750 --> 02:31:52,640
i don't want to get terrified

3904
02:31:58,389 --> 02:31:55,760
i don't want to be scared and and i

3905
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:58,399
realized yeah i think that's

3906
02:32:01,429 --> 02:32:00,640
yeah go ahead well continue but i have

3907
02:32:04,070 --> 02:32:01,439
some i have

3908
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:04,080
i have some insight on that maybe

3909
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:05,920
because whatever you were watching was

3910
02:32:09,110 --> 02:32:06,399
kind of

3911
02:32:10,070 --> 02:32:09,120
you know portraying paranormal and you

3912
02:32:13,030 --> 02:32:10,080
know

3913
02:32:15,190 --> 02:32:13,040
a negative way in like a scary way you

3914
02:32:16,309 --> 02:32:15,200
know and and that kind of like scratched

3915
02:32:19,030 --> 02:32:16,319
at your like

3916
02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:19,040
psyche and your subconscious and that's

3917
02:32:23,910 --> 02:32:21,040
why you had these dreams

3918
02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:23,920
but in my experience and like i said it

3919
02:32:28,469 --> 02:32:26,080
all has to do with the type of you know

3920
02:32:31,030 --> 02:32:28,479
energy you bring into a location

3921
02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:31,040
i've only i mean i've had encounters

3922
02:32:33,429 --> 02:32:32,000
that are considered

3923
02:32:35,429 --> 02:32:33,439
scary but it's kind of like when you're

3924
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:35,439
dealing with a wild animal you're unsure

3925
02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:36,479
of

3926
02:32:44,630 --> 02:32:39,600
there

3927
02:32:45,670 --> 02:32:44,640
know like so a wild animal that you've

3928
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:45,680
never come across

3929
02:32:49,990 --> 02:32:48,160
you know before let's say you go deep

3930
02:32:50,790 --> 02:32:50,000
diving in the ocean which is out of your

3931
02:32:53,030 --> 02:32:50,800
element

3932
02:32:54,309 --> 02:32:53,040
so that's you know kind of scary to

3933
02:32:56,469 --> 02:32:54,319
begin with you're

3934
02:32:57,590 --> 02:32:56,479
high on your you know senses are sharp

3935
02:32:59,670 --> 02:32:57,600
and everything

3936
02:33:00,870 --> 02:32:59,680
um but then you come across something

3937
02:33:02,870 --> 02:33:00,880
like a

3938
02:33:04,230 --> 02:33:02,880
crazy mean looking angler fish and if

3939
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:04,240
you've never seen one of those things

3940
02:33:08,230 --> 02:33:06,479
before you know they look so alien they

3941
02:33:10,469 --> 02:33:08,240
look so gnarly but they're completely

3942
02:33:12,389 --> 02:33:10,479
harmless especially to us

3943
02:33:14,070 --> 02:33:12,399
and so what could be perceived as like

3944
02:33:17,030 --> 02:33:14,080
monsters really are

3945
02:33:17,510 --> 02:33:17,040
you know really not that that dangerous

3946
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:17,520
to us

3947
02:33:22,389 --> 02:33:20,800
you know and i i pertain i put the same

3948
02:33:25,429 --> 02:33:22,399
thing with the paranormal

3949
02:33:26,550 --> 02:33:25,439
i i don't believe that it's there to

3950
02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:26,560
harm us

3951
02:33:30,870 --> 02:33:30,319
um i i have come across things with like

3952
02:33:36,870 --> 02:33:30,880
negative

3953
02:33:37,750 --> 02:33:36,880
if handled the correct way can actually

3954
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:37,760
be

3955
02:33:43,349 --> 02:33:41,520
you know trans like transmuted into

3956
02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:43,359
different types of energy so

3957
02:33:47,110 --> 02:33:44,880
you could actually take a negative

3958
02:33:50,389 --> 02:33:47,120
aspect hot and shift the whole

3959
02:33:52,950 --> 02:33:50,399
you know energetic um output of that

3960
02:33:56,710 --> 02:33:52,960
into something positive just off of

3961
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:56,720
you know being attentive um being

3962
02:34:01,590 --> 02:33:59,520
i like to meditate before going i'm not

3963
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:01,600
going into places i'll meditate before

3964
02:34:04,150 --> 02:34:02,160
going in

3965
02:34:06,309 --> 02:34:04,160
i'll meditate after an investigation as

3966
02:34:08,630 --> 02:34:06,319
well and sometimes i've gone in places

3967
02:34:11,910 --> 02:34:08,640
and just meditated in there just to

3968
02:34:14,950 --> 02:34:11,920
you know expand my you know healing aura

3969
02:34:16,550 --> 02:34:14,960
and consciousness into that space if it

3970
02:34:18,150 --> 02:34:16,560
felt really negative

3971
02:34:20,230 --> 02:34:18,160
you know and you could just totally

3972
02:34:21,830 --> 02:34:20,240
change a location's energy by doing

3973
02:34:24,070 --> 02:34:21,840
something like that

3974
02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:24,080
um so if you're scared if you don't want

3975
02:34:27,670 --> 02:34:25,840
to be scared if you want to be scared

3976
02:34:29,590 --> 02:34:27,680
you can be just you know go in there

3977
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:29,600
antagonize the energies and you'll get

3978
02:34:32,550 --> 02:34:31,280
the scratches and nightmares that you're

3979
02:34:34,309 --> 02:34:32,560
asking for but

3980
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:34,319
if you just want to have a conversation

3981
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:36,000
like you are with me

3982
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:37,359
or just try to get a little bit of

3983
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:40,240
history through the eyes of the spirits

3984
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:43,120
on board the queen mary i say go in

3985
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:45,600
you know with gifts and with compliments

3986
02:34:50,150 --> 02:34:47,280
and with an open mind

3987
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:50,160
now uh should i wear a costume it's

3988
02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:50,880
halloween

3989
02:34:53,990 --> 02:34:53,520
or do i how would i be you were talking

3990
02:34:55,910 --> 02:34:54,000
about

3991
02:34:57,670 --> 02:34:55,920
i'm not going to say no you you were

3992
02:34:59,270 --> 02:34:57,680
talking because you were talking about

3993
02:35:01,429 --> 02:34:59,280
period dressing too

3994
02:35:02,630 --> 02:35:01,439
as well and you guys are going to be

3995
02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:02,640
playing uh

3996
02:35:05,990 --> 02:35:04,080
some of that no i'm not saying i'm going

3997
02:35:07,349 --> 02:35:06,000
to come in like king henry viii

3998
02:35:09,270 --> 02:35:07,359
you know i'm not going to suggest that

3999
02:35:11,270 --> 02:35:09,280
but i do

4000
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:11,280
what should i do how should i approach

4001
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:13,120
that should i dress normally

4002
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:16,160
or should i go halloween

4003
02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:17,840
that's interesting you know i didn't

4004
02:35:22,950 --> 02:35:20,080
really think about it but you know

4005
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:22,960
um what if your costume is too scary for

4006
02:35:26,150 --> 02:35:24,160
the spirits

4007
02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:26,160
well i was thinking about it makes you

4008
02:35:29,670 --> 02:35:27,200
unapproachable

4009
02:35:30,469 --> 02:35:29,680
you come in looking like a you know

4010
02:35:33,429 --> 02:35:30,479
decrepit

4011
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:33,439
zombie you might get less activity what

4012
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:33,920
about

4013
02:35:41,030 --> 02:35:40,150
i could dig it okay all right we'll talk

4014
02:35:43,429 --> 02:35:41,040
to jake

4015
02:35:45,510 --> 02:35:43,439
kathleen i don't you know i don't i

4016
02:35:48,230 --> 02:35:45,520
don't know how to approach it but

4017
02:35:49,990 --> 02:35:48,240
uh uh aidan and becca were saying

4018
02:35:50,870 --> 02:35:50,000
earlier and it was very interesting that

4019
02:35:56,630 --> 02:35:50,880
when

4020
02:35:58,389 --> 02:35:56,640
you know are able to make some type of

4021
02:36:01,510 --> 02:35:58,399
contact when they

4022
02:36:01,990 --> 02:36:01,520
go in with jeans and t-shirts sometimes

4023
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:02,000
they get

4024
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:04,720
crickets i i thought that's pretty

4025
02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:09,030
yeah it shows that there's some sort of

4026
02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:10,880
intelligence to the haunts there

4027
02:36:16,150 --> 02:36:14,319
you know that they recognized people um

4028
02:36:17,990 --> 02:36:16,160
and they could tell that you know

4029
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:18,000
they're of the era so maybe they feel

4030
02:36:21,190 --> 02:36:19,280
more comfortable like

4031
02:36:22,550 --> 02:36:21,200
speaking with those individuals and

4032
02:36:25,510 --> 02:36:22,560
aiden and

4033
02:36:27,429 --> 02:36:25,520
becca are very convincing um when they

4034
02:36:30,469 --> 02:36:27,439
dress in period where they're

4035
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:30,479
to the t and very very dashing and

4036
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:31,600
dapper

4037
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:33,439
so i do hope they dress like that the

4038
02:36:37,750 --> 02:36:34,720
entire event

4039
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,760
now i wanted to ask you uh i'm so glad

4040
02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:39,280
we're in overtime because

4041
02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:42,160
i meant to get back to this earlier uh

4042
02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:44,160
we briefly touched upon

4043
02:36:49,270 --> 02:36:47,280
you know ufos and et and contact and

4044
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:49,280
a little bit of a big foot you know

4045
02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:50,560
these things were mentioned

4046
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:52,319
i think that they're all paranormal

4047
02:36:57,190 --> 02:36:55,280
related possibly inter-dimensional

4048
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,200
um do you think that there is a

4049
02:37:02,230 --> 02:36:59,520
connection when you hear about

4050
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:02,240
uh you know ghost in sasquatch being

4051
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:03,600
cited

4052
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,240
at the same time i don't think that's

4053
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,319
coincidence do you think that there is

4054
02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:11,439
a genuine connection you know connecting

4055
02:37:14,950 --> 02:37:13,200
of the dots when we talk about these

4056
02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:14,960
different types of events going down

4057
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:19,359
and they seem to happen at the same time

4058
02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:22,319
i think that um human beings are kind of

4059
02:37:25,429 --> 02:37:24,080
low down on the totem pole of

4060
02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:25,439
consciousness

4061
02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:27,920
um and i don't say that to you know

4062
02:37:31,910 --> 02:37:29,040
disrespect

4063
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:31,920
us you know as a kind i just think that

4064
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:34,160
we're babies we haven't matured to the

4065
02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:34,640
level

4066
02:37:41,110 --> 02:37:38,160
of you know like beyond

4067
02:37:42,309 --> 02:37:41,120
our physical reality but there are so

4068
02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:42,319
much more

4069
02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:45,120
around us and beyond us and in between

4070
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:46,720
us um

4071
02:37:50,070 --> 02:37:48,880
when it comes to you know dimensional

4072
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:50,080
realities

4073
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:53,120
um and some people are more privy than

4074
02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,399
other to seeing this

4075
02:37:59,429 --> 02:37:56,880
and there are times and conditions that

4076
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:59,439
happen within the cosmos and on this

4077
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:00,160
planet

4078
02:38:05,429 --> 02:38:03,040
that allow for these you know moments or

4079
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:05,439
loopholes or you know portals

4080
02:38:11,110 --> 02:38:08,960
that give us glimpses into alternate

4081
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:11,120
realities different dimensions and

4082
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,720
different ways of living

4083
02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:15,600
um sometimes i mean i argue a lot about

4084
02:38:20,870 --> 02:38:18,160
bigfoot like what is bigfoot is bigfoot

4085
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:20,880
you know do we is that like a time leap

4086
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:22,640
into our past you know because if you

4087
02:38:25,349 --> 02:38:24,080
look at them they almost look like

4088
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:25,359
neanderthals

4089
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:28,479
or maybe like early humans you know

4090
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:30,960
or is it a completely different species

4091
02:38:35,110 --> 02:38:32,080
and a different

4092
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:35,120
a completely different incarnation of

4093
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:37,040
you know life within an alternate

4094
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:38,160
dimension

4095
02:38:44,309 --> 02:38:41,200
you know that we cannot see um

4096
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:44,319
i believe that there is

4097
02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:46,560
the possibility for all of these things

4098
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:49,040
that we all coincide all together

4099
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:51,920
all the time we just don't see each

4100
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:52,880
other

4101
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:57,359
um and i i mean i have no way to explain

4102
02:39:01,670 --> 02:38:57,920
this this

4103
02:39:05,110 --> 02:39:01,680
is purely just you know my

4104
02:39:07,429 --> 02:39:05,120
my opinion but um yeah i do

4105
02:39:08,710 --> 02:39:07,439
believe that i mean i have seen a

4106
02:39:11,750 --> 02:39:08,720
cryptid before

4107
02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:11,760
you know and i have seen

4108
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:15,680
ufos before and i think the second that

4109
02:39:19,670 --> 02:39:18,479
you start expanding your mind to wrap

4110
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:19,680
around the

4111
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:22,479
the realities of different dimensions or

4112
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:24,880
just being a deeper thinker

4113
02:39:30,710 --> 02:39:28,319
opens and unlocks all of these uh

4114
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:30,720
portals so to speak and then you start

4115
02:39:33,110 --> 02:39:32,720
having more and more encounters and i

4116
02:39:39,190 --> 02:39:33,120
think

4117
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:39,200
a huge awakening in the consciousness of

4118
02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:40,560
people that i think

4119
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:42,640
more and more and more individuals are

4120
02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:44,160
going to start experiencing more

4121
02:39:48,270 --> 02:39:45,359
phenomena

4122
02:39:49,750 --> 02:39:48,280
more you know interactions with

4123
02:39:52,309 --> 02:39:49,760
extraterrestrials

4124
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:52,319
and cryptids and things of that sort

4125
02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:52,960
because

4126
02:39:56,790 --> 02:39:55,760
their brains are expanding and setting

4127
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:56,800
out like

4128
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:59,040
beacons or maybe even their energy

4129
02:40:04,469 --> 02:40:01,200
within themselves people that

4130
02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:04,479
you know meditate can you know

4131
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:06,560
eventually meditation could turn into

4132
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:08,399
astral projection

4133
02:40:12,790 --> 02:40:10,880
you know and and actual projection can

4134
02:40:14,630 --> 02:40:12,800
turn into time travel

4135
02:40:16,790 --> 02:40:14,640
it's just the second that you start to

4136
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:16,800
like kind of take those steps into the

4137
02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:17,680
more

4138
02:40:21,429 --> 02:40:20,160
you know expanding your consciousness

4139
02:40:23,510 --> 02:40:21,439
you start kind of

4140
02:40:25,269 --> 02:40:23,520
you know unlocking all these different

4141
02:40:27,429 --> 02:40:25,279
levels of you know

4142
02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:27,439
awareness and then you'll start having

4143
02:40:31,910 --> 02:40:29,600
more and more experiences

4144
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:31,920
uh you just mentioned two things that i

4145
02:40:35,110 --> 02:40:32,640
don't want to

4146
02:40:36,230 --> 02:40:35,120
uh like get away from us you said that

4147
02:40:42,469 --> 02:40:36,240
you have seen

4148
02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:45,269
so this was something that i had been

4149
02:40:48,790 --> 02:40:46,560
very naive about

4150
02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:48,800
in my past as a paranormal investigator

4151
02:40:51,269 --> 02:40:50,160
because it was more of a recent

4152
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:51,279
experience

4153
02:40:57,510 --> 02:40:54,319
um like maybe

4154
02:41:00,830 --> 02:40:57,520
uh probably six or seven years ago

4155
02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:00,840
i had went with a group of girls to hike

4156
02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:04,960
yosemite and we hiked to glacier point

4157
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:08,560
um so it wasn't

4158
02:41:11,830 --> 02:41:10,720
on the hike that i saw the cryptid it

4159
02:41:15,429 --> 02:41:11,840
was actually

4160
02:41:17,990 --> 02:41:15,439
i was staying at a hotel um

4161
02:41:20,070 --> 02:41:18,000
and it was exactly like you said i saw a

4162
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:20,080
cryptid and a ghost in the same exact

4163
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:21,760
night i know this sounds crazy

4164
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:24,560
i think it's crazy i can't explain it

4165
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:26,479
but i think it has to do with like a

4166
02:41:29,269 --> 02:41:27,359
level

4167
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:29,279
of consciousness that your mind has

4168
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:32,560
expanded for that moment in time

4169
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:35,040
enough to see into alternate dimensions

4170
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:35,920
you know

4171
02:41:40,150 --> 02:41:38,640
so um so people that know me and knows

4172
02:41:41,990 --> 02:41:40,160
about this cryptic thing i'm sorry to

4173
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:42,000
elude you but i just feel so nutty

4174
02:41:45,190 --> 02:41:43,760
talking about it i i'm a paranormal

4175
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:45,200
investigator to talk about ghosts all

4176
02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:46,560
day but when i have to talk about a

4177
02:41:50,309 --> 02:41:48,960
cryptid i get weird

4178
02:41:52,790 --> 02:41:50,319
i'm like oh god people are gonna think

4179
02:41:55,510 --> 02:41:52,800
i'm weird um not around

4180
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:55,520
people not around here you're not weird

4181
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:04,710
so i full disclosure i was having a

4182
02:42:10,630 --> 02:42:08,080
glass of wine um on the porch of

4183
02:42:12,630 --> 02:42:10,640
a hotel that overlooked the merced river

4184
02:42:14,790 --> 02:42:12,640
and it was right on the merced river and

4185
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:14,800
it was raging that night it was a full

4186
02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:16,000
moon

4187
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:19,840
high that you could actually see

4188
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:20,479
everything

4189
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:22,000
like pretty clearly the light

4190
02:42:26,870 --> 02:42:24,160
illuminated everything around me

4191
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:26,880
and even in the forest and on the river

4192
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:28,800
and there was this giant boulder

4193
02:42:32,230 --> 02:42:30,560
in the middle of the river that the

4194
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:32,240
river wrapped around

4195
02:42:37,269 --> 02:42:35,120
and on the boulder i saw what looked

4196
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:37,279
like a man

4197
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:39,120
and i thought oh this guy's like fishing

4198
02:42:42,790 --> 02:42:40,800
in the river but i'm like

4199
02:42:44,230 --> 02:42:42,800
i i'm from florida i go fishing i'm like

4200
02:42:46,070 --> 02:42:44,240
that guy's dumb like

4201
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:46,080
fishing in a river that raging like

4202
02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:47,760
you're gonna get your line caught like

4203
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:49,600
what are you doing in the middle

4204
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:52,560
of this river and and then i was like

4205
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,399
how did he get up on that boulder like

4206
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:56,479
it's in the middle of a raging river

4207
02:43:01,750 --> 02:43:00,319
it there's no um sides he could climb up

4208
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:01,760
on it's pretty circular

4209
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:04,479
and giant i have no idea and so i kept

4210
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:06,000
observing this guy

4211
02:43:13,030 --> 02:43:09,120
and then i realized okay this man has

4212
02:43:15,750 --> 02:43:13,040
no arms and this man's not wearing

4213
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:15,760
clothing and then i realize there's no

4214
02:43:17,910 --> 02:43:16,160
like

4215
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:17,920
hair there's no body hair and then when

4216
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:19,680
i really get to see it the higher the

4217
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:20,399
moon goes

4218
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:21,840
because i'm staring at this thing for

4219
02:43:27,429 --> 02:43:23,600
like 20 30 minutes

4220
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:27,439
drinking my wine and i noticed that

4221
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:29,760
as it got higher in the sky i noticed

4222
02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:31,680
that this was kind of a humanoid being

4223
02:43:35,670 --> 02:43:32,240
that had

4224
02:43:38,710 --> 02:43:35,680
skin that looked like shark skin

4225
02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:38,720
you know kind of like silvery kind of

4226
02:43:43,030 --> 02:43:39,760
reflective

4227
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:43,040
kind of smooth looking and had no

4228
02:43:47,590 --> 02:43:46,319
arms and had long long legs almost like

4229
02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:47,600
a wishbone

4230
02:43:52,870 --> 02:43:50,880
and then i didn't know much about this

4231
02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:52,880
you know cryptid creature and i i

4232
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:54,479
thought i was tripping i was like maybe

4233
02:43:58,550 --> 02:43:56,399
this bottle of wine's getting to my head

4234
02:44:02,230 --> 02:43:58,560
i'm gonna call it a night

4235
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:02,240
i go to sleep and um i wake up in the

4236
02:44:05,030 --> 02:44:03,760
middle of the night to my legs being

4237
02:44:08,630 --> 02:44:05,040
tugged at

4238
02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:08,640
i then look over my shoulder to see that

4239
02:44:13,269 --> 02:44:09,920
there is a small child

4240
02:44:14,870 --> 02:44:13,279
in the room staring at me and when i

4241
02:44:16,389 --> 02:44:14,880
looked over to my friend's bed in the

4242
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:16,399
queen bed next to me

4243
02:44:20,070 --> 02:44:19,200
she had the covers over her head and as

4244
02:44:22,790 --> 02:44:20,080
soon as i sat

4245
02:44:25,030 --> 02:44:22,800
up the kid had dissipated like i had

4246
02:44:25,429 --> 02:44:25,040
already set up and was still looking at

4247
02:44:29,590 --> 02:44:25,439
this

4248
02:44:31,269 --> 02:44:29,600
ghost um by then i had already forgotten

4249
02:44:32,389 --> 02:44:31,279
about this weird sighting of this thing

4250
02:44:35,510 --> 02:44:32,399
on the boulder

4251
02:44:37,830 --> 02:44:35,520
my friend she says susan are you awake

4252
02:44:39,429 --> 02:44:37,840
because she hears me wrestling about and

4253
02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:39,439
i'm like yeah and she's like what are

4254
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:41,200
you doing what are you looking at and i

4255
02:44:43,190 --> 02:44:41,920
was like oh

4256
02:44:44,870 --> 02:44:43,200
nothing because i'm not trying to be

4257
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:44,880
that ghost girl all the time you know

4258
02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:46,880
what i mean i just i have my experiences

4259
02:44:51,590 --> 02:44:48,640
i keep up to myself

4260
02:44:52,870 --> 02:44:51,600
but um she was like susan i'm gonna tell

4261
02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:52,880
you something but you were not gonna

4262
02:44:56,389 --> 02:44:54,560
believe me and this is a girl i didn't

4263
02:44:58,630 --> 02:44:56,399
really know she didn't really know much

4264
02:45:01,349 --> 02:44:58,640
about my paranormal investigative

4265
02:45:02,469 --> 02:45:01,359
you know endeavors you know she was a

4266
02:45:04,150 --> 02:45:02,479
mutual friend

4267
02:45:06,070 --> 02:45:04,160
she's like susan i just saw the ghost of

4268
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:06,080
a small child and it was jumping on my

4269
02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:06,720
bed

4270
02:45:09,830 --> 02:45:08,560
and i was like i'm not kidding that's

4271
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:09,840
exactly why i got up

4272
02:45:13,030 --> 02:45:12,160
i just saw a child so we both go for a

4273
02:45:15,349 --> 02:45:13,040
walk

4274
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:15,359
into the lobby of the hotel because she

4275
02:45:20,469 --> 02:45:17,120
can't sleep but she needs to shake it

4276
02:45:22,790 --> 02:45:20,479
off and we're talking about ghosts now

4277
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:22,800
and we find that the wing that we stayed

4278
02:45:27,429 --> 02:45:23,840
in had burnt

4279
02:45:28,870 --> 02:45:27,439
down completely and had a missing child

4280
02:45:29,349 --> 02:45:28,880
report from there they never found the

4281
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:29,359
child

4282
02:45:33,429 --> 02:45:31,200
that had apparently went missing after

4283
02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:33,439
this fire and there was a whole news

4284
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:34,399
article

4285
02:45:37,910 --> 02:45:36,160
that was framed and everything in the

4286
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:37,920
lobby and that we were staying in the

4287
02:45:42,230 --> 02:45:40,000
completely refurbished rebuilt

4288
02:45:43,190 --> 02:45:42,240
wing that had burnt down and i'm like

4289
02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:43,200
okay

4290
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:45,359
we saw a ghost that you know we told the

4291
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,359
person at the front desk too

4292
02:45:50,950 --> 02:45:49,920
that we had seen this ghost and she was

4293
02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:50,960
like oh yeah

4294
02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:52,800
people tell us that all the time it's

4295
02:45:56,150 --> 02:45:54,880
pretty nutty we just opened it up so

4296
02:46:00,870 --> 02:45:56,160
maybe there's some activity

4297
02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:00,880
there cut to going on the hike

4298
02:46:04,309 --> 02:46:02,640
we go to the information center in

4299
02:46:07,750 --> 02:46:04,319
yosemite

4300
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:07,760
and i see in this pamphlet

4301
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:11,120
a carving of what looks like

4302
02:46:15,110 --> 02:46:13,840
exactly the same thing that i saw on

4303
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:15,120
that boulder

4304
02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:18,319
and apparently as i looked it up it's

4305
02:46:21,590 --> 02:46:19,279
some sort of

4306
02:46:23,670 --> 02:46:21,600
cryptid creature that was worshiped by

4307
02:46:24,150 --> 02:46:23,680
the native american people in that

4308
02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:24,160
region

4309
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:27,600
near yosemite i forget their name um

4310
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:29,680
and i start looking more into it and

4311
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:31,439
people are like oh my god

4312
02:46:35,590 --> 02:46:33,279
there's a name for this thing they call

4313
02:46:39,349 --> 02:46:35,600
it the night crawler

4314
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:39,359
and i could not believe that

4315
02:46:43,269 --> 02:46:42,240
i had just seen this night crawler it

4316
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:43,279
looked

4317
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:46,080
just like the sculpture that was

4318
02:46:49,670 --> 02:46:48,160
pictured in the pamphlet about the

4319
02:46:50,389 --> 02:46:49,680
indigenous people that it was a

4320
02:46:52,870 --> 02:46:50,399
protective

4321
02:46:54,070 --> 02:46:52,880
spirit guide type deal that protects the

4322
02:46:57,670 --> 02:46:54,080
force

4323
02:47:01,269 --> 02:47:00,389
can i ask you really quick was the

4324
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:01,279
sculpture

4325
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:05,520
did he was it armless

4326
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:09,760
armless tall humanoid with two

4327
02:47:14,230 --> 02:47:12,080
extra long legs that look like you know

4328
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:14,240
like bent like a wishbone you know it

4329
02:47:17,750 --> 02:47:16,000
looked like a wishbone like imagine the

4330
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:17,760
shape of a wishbone

4331
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:20,880
not as exaggerated in the bow leg you

4332
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:21,600
know

4333
02:47:24,630 --> 02:47:23,200
but that's what it looks like it was

4334
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:24,640
about like five to six

4335
02:47:30,550 --> 02:47:27,920
feet tall and it had skin that was like

4336
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:30,560
silvery and smooth that looked like

4337
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:31,279
shark skin

4338
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:32,640
is the best way i could describe it or

4339
02:47:38,309 --> 02:47:34,960
like a dolphin you know

4340
02:47:40,469 --> 02:47:38,319
that color that consistency and

4341
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:40,479
i mean it was something imagine seeing a

4342
02:47:45,030 --> 02:47:42,399
gray alien

4343
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:45,040
um but without arms and much taller and

4344
02:47:49,030 --> 02:47:46,080
lankier

4345
02:47:50,790 --> 02:47:49,040
now how far away were you i've only got

4346
02:47:54,230 --> 02:47:50,800
a couple of minutes left but this

4347
02:47:57,510 --> 02:47:54,240
is just too crazy and i'm apologizing

4348
02:47:59,990 --> 02:47:57,520
to everybody that's on hold uh

4349
02:48:01,590 --> 02:48:00,000
i i totally spaced the phone calls okay

4350
02:48:04,469 --> 02:48:01,600
uh back to this

4351
02:48:05,990 --> 02:48:04,479
um how far away i do want to talk to

4352
02:48:07,190 --> 02:48:06,000
some people but i know i'm running out

4353
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:07,200
of time but um

4354
02:48:11,750 --> 02:48:10,560
yeah i was probably about like half a

4355
02:48:14,469 --> 02:48:11,760
football

4356
02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:14,479
field away right what would that be like

4357
02:48:18,790 --> 02:48:15,439
50 yards

4358
02:48:22,710 --> 02:48:18,800
yeah yeah yeah

4359
02:48:24,630 --> 02:48:22,720
and um it i mean maybe less actually

4360
02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:24,640
it was closer than that because now i'm

4361
02:48:27,510 --> 02:48:26,000
thinking about how big a football field

4362
02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:27,520
is it was a little bit closer than 50

4363
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:29,120
yards so let's say like 30

4364
02:48:36,230 --> 02:48:32,800
or 40 yards yeah that's close and it was

4365
02:48:37,510 --> 02:48:36,240
yeah yeah yeah and and as and it was a

4366
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,520
full moon

4367
02:48:41,510 --> 02:48:39,680
and the reason why we chose to go on

4368
02:48:43,590 --> 02:48:41,520
that hike because we knew it was going

4369
02:48:44,309 --> 02:48:43,600
to be hiking back at night so we chose

4370
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:44,319
to go

4371
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:46,960
on that hike for the full moon because i

4372
02:48:50,070 --> 02:48:47,439
was

4373
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:50,080
kind of i wanted to do a night hike back

4374
02:48:54,150 --> 02:48:50,479
down

4375
02:48:56,710 --> 02:48:54,160
you know the trail but yeah i i was

4376
02:48:57,190 --> 02:48:56,720
did he see you did anna ghost in one

4377
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:57,200
night

4378
02:49:01,110 --> 02:48:59,359
did he see he didn't notice me at all he

4379
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:01,120
didn't no

4380
02:49:06,870 --> 02:49:04,800
did it like react to me or like

4381
02:49:08,950 --> 02:49:06,880
i mean i didn't call out to it i didn't

4382
02:49:11,190 --> 02:49:08,960
try to be seen i was just strictly

4383
02:49:12,230 --> 02:49:11,200
observing this thing and not

4384
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:12,240
understanding

4385
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,359
and trying to wrap my head around it and

4386
02:49:19,269 --> 02:49:17,200
oh that's awesome i almost forgot about

4387
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:19,279
it until i saw this image in the

4388
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:20,000
pamphlet

4389
02:49:23,349 --> 02:49:21,680
and and learned about the indigenous

4390
02:49:25,510 --> 02:49:23,359
people and what they used they believed

4391
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:25,520
were the protectors of the forest

4392
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:27,600
and then seeing people's renditions of

4393
02:49:32,950 --> 02:49:30,880
their encounters with this night crawler

4394
02:49:35,030 --> 02:49:32,960
it definitely more of a scarier name

4395
02:49:36,230 --> 02:49:35,040
than it looked it was more of a goofy

4396
02:49:39,510 --> 02:49:36,240
cryptid to me than

4397
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:39,520
something creepy well and um

4398
02:49:43,990 --> 02:49:42,560
do you think i've only got 60 seconds

4399
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:44,000
left susan and thank you for this

4400
02:49:47,990 --> 02:49:46,399
great conversation tonight do you think

4401
02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:48,000
with all of your experience in the

4402
02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:49,200
paranormal

4403
02:49:55,429 --> 02:49:52,880
that you may have seen an apparition

4404
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:55,439
or was this something that was purely

4405
02:50:02,230 --> 02:50:00,469
it seemed purely physical it seemed

4406
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:02,240
something tangible something that i

4407
02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:02,960
could touch

4408
02:50:07,750 --> 02:50:06,160
if i was close enough um a solid

4409
02:50:11,349 --> 02:50:07,760
creature for sure

4410
02:50:13,269 --> 02:50:11,359
i think what i saw was a form of cryptid

4411
02:50:15,190 --> 02:50:13,279
whether it knew how to get into my

4412
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,200
dimension or whether i was

4413
02:50:18,389 --> 02:50:17,279
seeing something and slipped visually

4414
02:50:21,910 --> 02:50:18,399
into another

4415
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:21,920
i have no idea but it i felt very calm

4416
02:50:23,990 --> 02:50:23,680
around its presence that was another

4417
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:24,000
thing

4418
02:50:27,670 --> 02:50:25,840
just like the calmness that it gave me

4419
02:50:29,990 --> 02:50:27,680
while i was observing it

4420
02:50:31,590 --> 02:50:30,000
you know so i that was a note that i had

4421
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:31,600
taken that it wasn't a

4422
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:34,000
you know it was a very docile energy

4423
02:50:37,269 --> 02:50:35,040
around it

4424
02:50:39,030 --> 02:50:37,279
but yeah that was my cryptid story well

4425
02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:39,040
it sounds to me like you do

4426
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attract and and i

4427
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i know what that is like so i'm really

4428
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looking forward to next

4429
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:49,920
weekend on the queen mary i i don't know

4430
02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:51,120
what to expect

4431
02:50:54,469 --> 02:50:53,520
um i'm completely excited about it i

4432
02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:54,479
know that

4433
02:50:59,030 --> 02:50:56,240
uh the audience and the fans of this

4434
02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,040
show are are all thumbs up and

4435
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and you know what just like anything

4436
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else

4437
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:05,359
uh i i think that they are hoping

4438
02:51:08,950 --> 02:51:07,520
that we can have an experience and and

4439
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:08,960
share it together so let's

4440
02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:11,520
let's see what happens but but i'm i'm

4441
02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:12,080
i'm all

4442
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:14,000
in i i cannot wait for next weekend

4443
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:15,200
thank you so much susan

4444
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:17,520
where can everybody reach out to you i

4445
02:51:22,950 --> 02:51:20,800
know that you're on uh twitter

4446
02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:22,960
uh well twitter is my least favorite

4447
02:51:28,389 --> 02:51:23,920
platform so

4448
02:51:31,510 --> 02:51:28,399
i'm definitely more active on instagram

4449
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:31,520
i'm susan the dragon witch all one word

4450
02:51:37,429 --> 02:51:35,279
all lowercase and um yeah i tried to get

4451
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:37,439
back to people as often as i can

4452
02:51:40,790 --> 02:51:39,920
and and on twitter i'm getting better

4453
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:40,800
with my twitter

4454
02:51:44,469 --> 02:51:43,680
i am slaughter underscore susan on

4455
02:51:46,550 --> 02:51:44,479
twitter

4456
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:46,560
there you go thank you so much susan and

4457
02:51:49,269 --> 02:51:47,920
i look forward to hanging out with you

4458
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:49,279
next friday night

4459
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:51,439
for our haunted weekend with the queen

4460
02:51:53,830 --> 02:51:53,200
thank you so much and enjoy the rest of

4461
02:51:56,150 --> 02:51:53,840
your week

4462
02:51:58,150 --> 02:51:56,160
thank you jimmy have a good night great

4463
02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:58,160
conversation susan thank you so much and

4464
02:52:01,590 --> 02:51:58,960
with that

4465
02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:01,600
we just went pulled a poll beginning to

4466
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:03,840
end and i'm gonna go straight into

4467
02:52:07,990 --> 02:52:06,399
the credits because i am out of time

4468
02:52:09,910 --> 02:52:08,000
what a great night tonight

4469
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:09,920
i do want to thank aiden sinclair becca

4470
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:11,359
knight and of course

4471
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:14,160
susan slaughter the links are down below

4472
02:52:17,429 --> 02:52:15,920
you can go and click it says right there

4473
02:52:20,230 --> 02:52:17,439
the haunted queen mary

4474
02:52:21,990 --> 02:52:20,240
halloween weekend don't forget to use

4475
02:52:24,070 --> 02:52:22,000
the promo code jimmy for

4476
02:52:26,309 --> 02:52:24,080
another discount fade to black's

4477
02:52:27,190 --> 02:52:26,319
executive producers rita kamarian shows

4478
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:27,200
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4479
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,160
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4480
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:32,399
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4481
02:52:39,550 --> 02:52:35,760
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4482
02:52:41,030 --> 02:52:39,560
music doug aldrich intro spaceboy

4483
02:52:43,269 --> 02:52:41,040
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4484
02:52:45,150 --> 02:52:43,279
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4485
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:45,160
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4486
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:46,720
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4487
02:52:51,830 --> 02:52:49,600
the planet this broadcast owned

4488
02:52:53,590 --> 02:52:51,840
copyrighted 2020 by fade to black in the

4489
02:52:55,670 --> 02:52:53,600
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4490
02:52:57,349 --> 02:52:55,680
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4491
02:52:58,150 --> 02:52:57,359
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4492
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:58,160
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4493
02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:59,840
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4494
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:01,279
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4495
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:02,640
your host jimmy church

4496
02:53:06,389 --> 02:53:05,120
don't forget tomorrow night right here

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02:53:09,750 --> 02:53:06,399
richard bleepin